On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 2:41 PM Senthil Kumaran <sent...@python.org> wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 01:54:23PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > 2. I can handle Discord just fine nowadays but *please* don't combine > this with > > the Python Discord server. > > This was expressed by other core-devs as well. > > > 8. I would want a purely *social* chat that is *closed* to non-core-devs. > > Everybody who can read it should also be able to post, and feel free to > do so. > > As soon as there's the possibility of spectators I clam up, or at least > I am > > much more guarded about what I post, defeating the purpose. (There > should be a > > CoC that includes "no posting elsewhere of what you see here ever".) We > already > > have enough channels where technical discussions are archived for > posterity. We > > should be careful not to have discussions that lead to decisions on such > a chat > > channel, because that excludes others who either weren't there at the > time (all > > chats are terrible when there's a lot of scrollback, almost by design) > or who > > just choose not to participate. > > This is a ver most important part here. Initially, I wasn't thinking what > would be social vs non-social with core-dev chat. But guidelines here, that > this is more a "team chat" - Just members of team hanging around, > feeling comfortable to chat was my thinking. > > Requesting guidance on something or seeking opinions should be a part of > "social" thingy, but, I foresee that we will have to make sure critical > decisions don't happen in there. > We should treat this the same as hanging out together in person. Sometines some folks get together and "solve" some important problem or have a breakthrough new idea or whatever. And then they part with the commitment that one (or several) of them will write it up and post to python-dev (or whatever formal channel, maybe a bpo or GitHub issue or a GitHub PR) so others can provide feedback etc. > Given the social aspect of solution, I think, voting would best capture > the winner and folks whose vote's didn't win will perhaps fold over to > the winning choice. > Sure, I wouldn't be a sore loser. That's the reason we had choices between IRC, Gitter, Zulip to Discord. Wait, is there already a vote somewhere? -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) *Pronouns: he/him **(why is my pronoun here?)* <http://feministing.com/2015/02/03/how-using-they-as-a-singular-pronoun-can-change-the-world/>
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