Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve wrote:
> I know enhancing the syntax is work, but shouldn't a syntax leading to
> less code clutter be the higher value? IMO a long-term gain counts for
> much more than avoiding a one-time investment implementing a useful
> feature. Take, for example, the syntax enhancement supporting "import
> foo as bar". I could just as easily write:
>
> import foo
> bar = foo
> del foo
>
> "A syntax change is wholly unnecessary."
> Why was it important enough anyway? It was a good enhancement because
> it is clearly more expressive and reduces clutter.
>
> In my experience the self.x=x; self.y=y etc. problem arises much more
> often than the problem solved by "import foo as bar". IMO a *built-in*
> solution is much more important in practice. Why does everybody have to
> reinvent the adopt_init_args/initialize wheel, or have to sheepishly
> type self.x=x...?
Actually, this reminds me of a recent suggestion (from AMK?) about
being able to get at both the packed and unpacked form of an argument via:
def f(arg as (a, b, c)):
print arg
print c, b, a
Then f([1, 2, 3]) would print:
[1, 2, 3]
3 2 1
If the right hand side of 'as' permitted the same forms as are going
to be permitted for the 'as' clause in 'with' statements, then Ralf's
situation could be handled via:
def __init__(self as s, x as s.x, y as s.y, z as s.z):
pass
Essentially, it allows arguments to be given two names - a public name
(before the 'as', used for keyword arguments), and a private name
(after the 'as', not used for keyword arguments, allows easy shorthand
aliasing of self, unpacking of tuple arguments, and easy assignment of
instance variables).
Cheers,
Nick.
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Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia
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