> P.S. Simplifying "and" and "or" may create a need to introduce a > conditional operator but that is a discussion for another day.
While I don't disagree with some of your main points, I do think that your proposal would eliminate a natural and easy to understand use of the current behavior of "or" that I tend to use quite a bit. Your proposal would break a lot of code, and I can't think of a better "conditional operator" than the one thats already there. I often find myself using 'or' to conditionally select a meaningful value in the absence of a real value: person = Person.fetch(id=5) name = person.name or 'John Doe' birth_date = person.birth_date or '00-00-0000' ssn = person.social_security or 'not provided' logger.log_msg('%s born on %s with SSN %s' % (name, birth_date, ssn)) To me, its just as natural as: { 'key' : value }.get('not_there', 'default') but more general purpose. I like the current behavior, and I think it makes a whole lot of sense. Jonathan LaCour http://cleverdevil.org _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com