Hi, Let me share with you (this mailing list) my experience with mentoring and what we call "easy issue". First of all, almost all "easy issues" are very hard issues: issues open for longer than one year, with many comments, and nobody succeeded to come up with a solution (well, otherwise the issue would be closed, no? ;-)). Does it mean that there is no easy issue? Well, when someone creates a really easy issue, it's usually fixed in less than 2 hours(!): either by a core dev who want to relax their brain, or by a contributor eager to get more commits under their name.
It's not uncommon that even if an issue is marked as easy (easy keyword and [EASY] in the title), it's fixed by a core a dev. Or at least by a "regular" contributor who wants to get more commits. For a regular contributor, I see the point of getting more commits: getting more visible. But in my criteria to promote a contributor as a core dev, it's not enough. It's not with easy issue that you learn hard stuff: trade off between backward compatibility and new features which has to break it, write complex test, document properly a change, etc. Does it mean that we don't need easy issue? No. For someone who really starts from the beginning, easy issues are required. You cannot ask a newcomer to immediately write the perfect PR at the first attempt with a long list of strict requirements: complex tests, handle portability issues, etc. You need to build a stair made of *small* steps. What's the solution? I'm not sure. I decided to stop opening public issues for my mentorees and instead give them easy bugs by private email. Why? My main concern is the high pressure on an open issue: the race to be the first to produce a PR. Recently, I opened a public issue anyway but explicitly wrote that it's reserved for my mentoree. Someone ignored the message and wrote a PR... It was a first time contributor and it was really hard to me to reject the PR :-( (My mentoree wrote a better PR with my help, at least a PR closer to what I expected, obviously since I helped.) I prefer to give unlimited time to my mentoree to dig into the code, ask questions, write code step by step. I really hate the time pressure of the race on open easy issues :-( Now the question is: how can *you* find an easy issue? Well. In the past, my real problem was that I didn't let anyone write the code that I would like to write myself. I considered that nobody writes code as well as I do... Sorry :-) It took me time to change my mind. Lao Tsu said that if you give a hungry man a fish, you feed him for a day, but if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetim To better scale horizontally, I have to teach other people what I do, to be able to distribute the work. I am working hard against myself to stop writing all code myself. Instead, I'm trying to explain carefully what I would like to do, split the work into tasks, and distribute these tasks to my mentorees, one by one. But I don't put my mentorees in a competition, each mentoree has its own project which doesn't conflict with others. Doing that takes me a lot of time: create tasks, follow tasks, review PRs, etc. To be honest, right now, I'm mostly able to follow correctly only one mentoree at the same time. The others are more "on their own" (sorry!). As you may know, finding a task doable by mentorees is hard. I have a lot of ideas, but many ideas will take years to be implemented and are controversial :-) I don't ask you to completely stop writing code. I ask you to not write everything yourself, and sometimes give the simplest issues to contributors who are eager to help you. Victor _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com