> On 15 Oct 2019, at 06:37, Glenn Linderman <v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com> wrote:
> 
>> I look forward to using Python 3.8.0.
>> 
>> However, having installed it, I then needed to install brotli, so I ran pip 
>> install brotli, and that worked, but I was very surprised to get told:
>> 
>> You are using pip version 18.1, however version 19.3 is available.
>> You should consider upgrading via the 'python -m pip install --upgrade pip' 
>> command.
>> 
>> The upgrade worked, but why would the newest, just-released version of 
>> Python not include the newest version of pip?
>> 
>> Glenn

The reason why ensurepip is complaining on 3.8 (and it is) is that pip 19.3 was 
released on the same day as 3.8.0. Like any other part of CPython, it takes a 
while to stabilize ensurepip and I wouldn't update it for 3.8.0 at any point 
after RC1 was released unless it fixed a critical bug.

Admittedly, it is a bit surprising to say the least to have pip outdated from 
Day 1. However, keep in mind that pip is a relatively fast-moving external 
project and it was a matter of time for ensurepip to go out of date. In fact, 
it's pretty much guaranteed to happen sooner or later.

I wouldn't worry about it.

- Ł

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