> In most cases of a first-time poster that I've seen, the poster probably
doesn't have the understanding needed to conduct a proper search of the
mailing list. That's why I suggest responding with some genuine help (i.e.
taking their idea at face value and explaining what's wrong with it).

It might also be helpful to directly link to a few of those past
discussions; particularly if they had some relevant responses that could
provide some valuable insight for the OP. I've done this a few times, and
mentioned that if they want to still proceed with their idea, they'd have
to address the previous concerns brought up. IMO, this provides a good
balance of avoiding an exact repetition of past discussions, providing the
OP with some answers, and in a best case scenario the OP might have valid
counterarguments to the previous reason(s) the proposal was rejected.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:12 PM Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:42 PM Bar Harel <bha...@barharel.com> wrote:
>
>> What I usually do btw is just search on mailman. Perhaps we can guide
>> people to search on mailman before suggesting an idea?
>>
>
> We could add that suggestion to the "welcome to this list" email. I
> honestly don't know if we send out such emails, but Mailman (3) seems to
> have that capability.
>
> But I doubt that many users will follow that advice. In most cases of a
> first-time poster that I've seen, the poster probably doesn't have the
> understanding needed to conduct a proper search of the mailing list. That's
> why I suggest responding with some genuine help (i.e. taking their idea at
> face value and explaining what's wrong with it). For example, Andrew
> Barnert does this excellently in many of his python-ideas posts. Many posts
> by Steven D'Aprano are also good examples. In the past, Tim Peters was the
> champion of this style.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:03 PM Skip Montanaro <skip.montan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Atm we don't have an index of ideas, apart from pep 3099, and I'm not
>> sure we can make one (can we?), so I do not see a way to prevent this from
>> happening.
>>
>> Maybe an informational PEP which briefly lists rejected ideas?
>> Presumably, they'd normally come up in python-ideas, python-list or
>> python-dev. Each rejected idea could link to one or more relevant
>> threads in one of those lists. Not sure who should be the gatemasters
>> for new bad ideas.
>>
>
> At least for python-ideas, that sounds a lot like an exhaustive list of
> all threads in that list. :-)
>
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