The webmaster list sends an auto-response to new posters. If something like
that could happen on python-dev too, as long as the advice was clear enough
the list could then simply ignore such requests, knowing that the
auto-responder had taken care of it. This could drive posters to
python-list or python-ideas. There's nothing to stop individual devs still
replying if the inquiry merits it ...

Kind regards,
Steve


On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:49 PM Bar Harel <bha...@barharel.com> wrote:

> What I usually do btw is just search on mailman. Perhaps we can guide
> people to search on mailman before suggesting an idea?
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 12:30 AM Bar Harel <bha...@barharel.com> wrote:
>
>> I wrote it and take full responsibility, did not mean to be
>> disrespectful. Afterall, it's not what any of us are here for.
>>
>> For repeated suggestions though, that were rejected once or more in the
>> past, what are the general guidelines of answering?
>> In this case, apart from the rejection reason, we wish to teach the
>> newbie how to check if an idea was already suggested, else his ideas would
>> just be rejected over and over again.
>>
>> Atm we don't have an index of ideas, apart from pep 3099, and I'm not
>> sure we can make one (can we?), so I do not see a way to prevent this from
>> happening.
>>
>> I bet that many ideas are repeated, we don't know it, and it therefore
>> causes a repeated discussion with time and effort going nowhere.
>>
>> Just to clarify, my aim by answering it this way was to reduce the
>> overall effort of both sides, and the attempt to reinvent the wheel. It's
>> much like how duplicate stackoverflow questions are closed.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:58 PM Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Somebody wrote, in response to a newbie's idea:
>>>
>>>> This idea is proposed at least once a year. You're able to read past
>>>> discussions on python-ideas for the full list of rejection reasons.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This   needs to go. It's unfair to the newbie, and I bet that in most
>>> cases whoever posts this doesn't have the slightest idea on how to find the
>>> specific rejection reason for the idea to which they're responding. I agree
>>> that many bad ideas come up repeatedly. But unless the proposer is a
>>> regular harasser of one of the lists, a response like this is unhelpful.
>>> Even if an idea is bad, let's respond in a friendly way, so the OP actually
>>> learns something about how Python is designed, or how it works, or whatever
>>> is relevant to understanding why their idea won't fly.
>>>
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