On 05/11/2020 11:48 PM, Brandt Bucher wrote:
On 05/10/2020 14:39, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/10/2020 09:04 PM, Brandt Bucher wrote:

the author has counted dozens of other call sites in Python's standard library 
and
 tooling where it would be appropriate to enable this new feature immediately.

References, please.

Here are two dozens:

- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/_pydecimal.py#L3394
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/_pydecimal.py#L3418
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/_pydecimal.py#L3435

These are all after a function that ensures the iterables are the same length 
-- hardly seems a good idea to slow them down with an extra check for each 
digit.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/ast.py#L94-L95

This one already has a check.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/ast.py#L1184
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/ast.py#L1275

Reasonable.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/ast.py#L1363

Already has a check.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/ast.py#L1391

Reasonable.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/copy.py#L217
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/csv.py#L142

Mismatch cannot happen.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/dis.py#L462

Unsure if mismatch can happen.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/filecmp.py#L142
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/filecmp.py#L143

Mismatch cannot happen.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/inspect.py#L1440
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/inspect.py#L2095

Reasonable.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/os.py#L510

Wow -- I don't even know how to parse that!


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/plistlib.py#L577

Maybe.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/tarfile.py#L1317
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/tarfile.py#L1323

Definitely.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/tarfile.py#L1339

Mismatch cannot happen.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/turtle.py#L3015
- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/turtle.py#L3071

Reasonable.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/Lib/turtle.py#L3901

Mismatch cannot happen.


- 
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/27c0d9b54abaa4112d5a317b8aa78b39ad60a808/setup.py#L455

Mismatch cannot happen.


So half of your examples are actually counter-examples.  Did you vet them, or 
just pick matches against `zip(` ?

Also, if a flag is used, won't that slow down every call to zip even when the 
flag is False?  I know in many cases it probably won't matter, but I can see 
where it could in _pydecimal.

--
~Ethan~
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