Thanks for the reply.

Independent of whether the spelling is encouraged, does the PEP in its
current form consider `(name := _)` to be legal, or is `_` forbidden on the
RHS of a `:=` by a similar argument to forbidding `_`  in `**_`?

Eric

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:12, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:23 AM Eric Wieser <wieser.eric+nu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In regards to
>> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0622/#alternatives-for-constant-value-pattern,
>> was this alternative considered?
>> ```
>> match obj:
>>     case SomeClass(field := _):  # is this already allowed by the PEP?
>>         pass
>>     case some_constant:  # my proposal: do not require `.some_constant`
>> here
>>         pass
>>     case (other := _):  # is this already allowed by the PEP? If so, do
>> we need the extra `case other:` spelling?
>>         print(other)
>> ```
>>
>> It seems like `:=` already provides all the necessary syntax for
>> distinguishing bindings from constants, admittedly at the cost of 6
>> characters per binding (eg `Point(x := _, y := _)`) - so introducing
>> additional syntax seems unnecessary.
>>
>
> In languages that have pattern matching, it is the primary way to extract
> pieces of a compound data structure into individual variables. For the use
> cases where match would be a good fit in Python, the same will be true. So
> using your proposed syntax here is too verbose to consider.
>
>
>> If this was considered but rejected for verbosity concerns, it would be
>> nice to see it mentioned in the rejected alternatives section.
>>
>
> We can't discuss every single idea in that section. I don't think anyone
> else has proposed this, so I don't think it needs to be discussed for
> posterity. There are plenty of better ideas in this thread that deserve a
> mention there.
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
> *Pronouns: he/him **(why is my pronoun here?)*
> <http://feministing.com/2015/02/03/how-using-they-as-a-singular-pronoun-can-change-the-world/>
>
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