On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 7:33 PM Stephen J. Turnbull <
stephenjturnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gregory P. Smith writes:
>
>  > We feel it too. We've been finding Discourse more useful from a
> community
>  > moderation and thread management point of view as well as offering
> markdown
>  > text and code rendering. Ideal for PEP discussions.
>
> The specific mention of "community moderation" and "thread management"
> makes me suspect that part of that effect is due to increased cost of
> participation for casual observers.


As one of the discuss.python.org admins and a former ML admin (sans
python-committers), I can tell that "increased cost of participation for
casual observers" is not at all the motivation behind Greg's comment (you
can look at the user of the Users category to see that the barrier of entry
isn't there). Discourse it just flat-out easier to admin: individuals can
flag posts, automatic spam detection, site-wide admins instead of per-list,
ability to split topics, ability to lock topics, ability to "slow down"
topics, time-limited suspensions, etc. I quit being an admin for any ML
beyond python-committers because I found it too frustrating to deal w/ when
compared to the tools I have on discuss.python.org.


Suggestion for PEP monitoring:
>
> AIUI the PEP process at a high level view is fairly well monitored by
> a certain set of GitHub commits: the proto-PEP "PEP-9999" commit, the
> commit that assigns it a PEP number, and commits that change status.
> How about a GitHub bot that does nothing but post PEP commit logs to a
> dedicated Discourse channel?  It should be possible to remove typo
> fixes and the like by posting any that change title, number, or
> status, and from the rest exclude any commits that change less than a
> dozen lines or something like that.  Or perhaps PEP committers could
> be asked to include some kind of tag like "#trivial" to distinguish
> them.
>

It's a possibility if someone wants to put the work in.
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