On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:42:13 +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" <mar...@v.loewis.de> wrote: >> It's my intention to get a Package Manager included in standard >> python - yes. > > In addition to the other constraints you'll have to meet for this > to happen, you also have to wait a rather long time (several years) > before inclusion becomes possible. This time is necessary for the > community to accept your tool, and evaluate it. Ideally, the request > for inclusion should not come from you, but from your users.
Yes. But users have been asking for a tool and complaining loudly about the lack of such a tool. I know you're an extremely competent and those emails you perphaps floss over. But the pleas are many and when we compare python to other languages, python rates towards at the low end of the spectrum its third party-package management facilities. You can't seriously expect users to wait for years for an integrated package management tool. Especially on Windows - that's cruel :-) To date, there just hasn't been any movement on the building of such a tool due to whatever reasons. A Package Manager isn't a frivolous "nice-to-have" tool. It's essential for a new user. (if you want I can sift the last twelve months worth of ML archives and report on how many times easier package management has been asked for. And how difficult people are finding it) > No. It implies that any addition could only depend on Python (and > OS API) - so things *can* be added. For example, setuptools could > be added by this principle. OTOH, if your tool depends on setuptools, > you'll have to wait for setuptools to get included before inclusion > of your tool can be considered. Let's get precise. It doesn't "depend" on setuptools. But it will install setuptools if the user requests to use setuptools/easy_install. So we should only be back to the lack of a TK interface and the fact that the Package Manager Project is a new project, and needs to be working properly on more platforms. Thanks for your email. I appreciate the feedback, from everyone. Take care. David _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
