On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:32:55 pm David Lyon wrote: > > In addition to the other constraints you'll have to meet for this > > to happen, you also have to wait a rather long time (several years) > > before inclusion becomes possible. This time is necessary for the > > community to accept your tool, and evaluate it. Ideally, the > > request for inclusion should not come from you, but from your > > users. > > Yes. But users have been asking for a tool and complaining loudly > about the lack of such a tool. I know you're an extremely competent > and those emails you perphaps floss over. But the pleas are many and > when we compare python to other languages, python rates towards at > the low end of the spectrum its third party-package management > facilities. > > You can't seriously expect users to wait for years for an integrated > package management tool. Especially on Windows - that's cruel :-)
Life is cruel and hard. Anyone who tells you different is selling something. Nobody is saying that users have to wait for years for such a tool. They can download it from wherever you host it. But you shouldn't expect the Python dev team to accept an unproven tool into the official library before demonstrating both the need and the solution. (Just because users say they want something, doesn't mean they'll actually use the tool you provide -- perhaps they don't know what they really need, and perhaps your tool doesn't match their needs.) I'm a user, and personally I don't want Yet Another Integrated Package Management Tool. What I really want is the ability to install Python packages using the PM tool I already use, namely yum. (And I'd like a pony.) Failing that, I want the Python standard library to be stable and reliable. With the greatest of respect, fast-tracking unproven tools into the library based on the author's say-so is the first step to instability and unreliability. Putting your software on the Cheeseshop, and making regular announcements to the Python community (e.g. on comp.lang.python) will be a good way to publicise the tool, and if does meet a need, people will use it, and then, if it's good enough and popular enough and supported, it may be blessed by inclusion in the standard library. Although I'm not a Windows user, let me say thank you for your efforts on behalf of Python users. Good luck! -- Steven D'Aprano _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
