> Nick wrote: >>> This has nothing to do with pushing 3.x, but all with managing >>> available manpower and still providing quality software. >> >> Python 3.x needs more carrots. > > As Guido has said a few times, the gains are far greater for *new* > Python developers than they are for existing ones.
Well both you and Guido are most likely 100% correct. :-) > They don't have as rich a 3rd party ecosystem > on Python 3 as they would on Python 2.x at this point in time, but > unlike existing developers they also have the luxury of cherry-picking > just those packages that already have Python 3 support. Most likely. I wouldn't want to say anything to discourage people from going to python 3. In other languages, I have much experience of making the jump to 'a whole new world'. It's unsettling at first, but after that, you suddenly find the new model has a better turbo than the last and you're at the next corner faster than you can think. So it's all good. But I still maintain Python 3.0 needs more carrots. For example, if mercurial or any other cool lib gets added to python 3 (and I can name a few that should go in python 3) then they should be added to python 3 and not to python 2.x They would serve as good carrots. Make fresh the python 3 stdlib and preserve the python 2.x stdlib. I really think we are somewhat short on resources to do what Guido has asked about bringing python up to CPAN level with respect to packages. We're starting a long way back with horses and swords and trying to catch a well fed and greased modern machine.. I'm sure we can get a modern package testbot operational for python. But I wish those who were complaining about the packaging problem so much could throw some money at the problem instead of moaning about it. As is done on other open-source projects. Some organisation would be beneficial. Finding funds so that a small group of people could work on the problem would be a great boost to forward progress. I just think python packaging needs six months of that to repair the years and years of neglect and stagnation. Even if it is only beer and bus fare money. It just needs a temporary shot of adrenalin in the arm.. so to speak.. Regards David _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
