On 18 Jan 2010, at 14:57 , Michael Foord wrote: > > On 18/01/2010 13:46, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> On Jan 18, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Masklinn wrote: >> >>> On 18 Jan 2010, at 13:40 , Nick Coghlan wrote: >>>> >>>> Tarek Ziadé wrote: >>>>> There's one remaining external call for "zip" done if the zip module >>>>> is not found, but I am happy to remove it and throw an exception if >>>>> it's not found, and keep the external "zip" call on Distutils side, so >>>>> shutil stays 100% stdlib-powered. >>>> >>>> +1 for that approach. These changes all sound like nice additions to >>>> shutil, and hooray for every module that gets adopted by an active >>>> maintainer :) >>> >>> Isn't it a bit weird to include that to shutil though? shutil advertises >>> itself as "a number of high-level operations on files and collections of >>> files." > > Well - isn't what's being proposed "a number of high-level operations on > files and collections of files." ? > Well no those are high-level operations on a very restricted set of file types (archives).
>>> and from what I understood it was a bunch of shell-type utility functions > > like tar and zip? :-) > Tar and zip have a module each at this time, so they're considered pretty big. I don't think anybody would consider "mv" big enough to give it a module on its own. >>> Wouldn't it make more sense to put those "archive utils" functions/objects >>> in a new module separate from shutil, dealing specifically with >>> cross-archive APIs and linked from the current archive-specific modules >>> (essentially, just take the current archive_util, move it to the toplevel >>> of the stdlib and maybe rename it)? It would also make the module much >>> easier to find when searching through the module listing, I think. >> >> +1 >> > > Proliferation of modules is itself a bad thing though. Yes, but so is the loss of focus of a module. I hate using that argument, but I fear this would be a step on a slippery slope of making shutil a monster-bag of anything that has to do with inodes, no matter how tenuous or removed the connection is. Plus having this as a toplevel module/package would open the window to moving all archive-related modules within it (in the py4 window), à la xml package without having to move itself. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com