On 27/05/2010 16:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Paul Moore writes:
  >  On 27 May 2010 00:11, geremy condra<debat...@gmail.com>  wrote:
  >  >  I'm not clear, you seem to be arguing that there's a market for many
  >  >  augmented python distributions but not one. Why not just have one
  >  >  that includes the best from each domain?
  >
  >  Because that's "bloat". You later argue that a web designer wouldn't
  >  care if his "distribution" included numpy. OK, maybe, but if my needs
  >  are simply futures, cx_Oracle and pywin32, I *would* object to
  >  downloading many megabytes of other stuff just to get those three.
  >  It's a matter of degree.

So don't do that.  Go to PyPI and get just what you need.

The point of the sumo is that there are people and organizations with
more bandwidth/diskspace than brains (or to be more accurate, they
have enough bandwidth that optimizing bandwidth is a poor use of their
brains).
To my mind one of the most important benefits of a "sumo" style distribution is not just that it easily provides a whole bunch of useful modules - but that it *highlights* which modules are the community blessed "best of breed". At the moment if a new user wants to work out how to achieve a particular task (work with images for example) they have to google around and try and work out what the right module to use is.

For some problem domains there are a host of modules on PyPI many of which are unmaintained, immature or simply rubbish. A standardised solution makes choosing solutions for common problems *dramatically* easier, and may save people much heartache and frustration. For that to work though it needs to be well curated and genuinely have the substantial backing of the Python development community.

All the best,

Michael

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