On 27 May 2010 16:56, Stephen J. Turnbull <step...@xemacs.org> wrote:

> We'll just have to agree to disagree, then.  Plenty of evidence has
> been provided; it just doesn't happen to apply to you.  Fine, but I
> wish you'd make the "to me" part explicit, because I know that it does
> apply to others, many of them, from their personal testimony, both
> related to XEmacs and to Python.

Sorry, you're right. There's a very strong "to me" in all of this, but
I more or less assumed it was obvious, as I was originally responding
to comments implying that a sumo distribution was a solution to a
problem I stated that I have. In trying to trim things, and keep
things concise, I completely lost the context. My apologies.

> I wouldn't recommend building a production system on top of a sumo in
> any case.  But (given resources to maintain multiple Python development
> installations) it is a good environment for experimentation, because
> not only batteries but screwdrivers and duct tape are supplied.

That's an interesting perspective that I hadn't seen mentioned before.
For experimentation, I'd *love* a sumo distribution as you describe.
But I thought this whole discussion focussed around building
production systems. For that, the stdlib's quality guarantees are a
major benefit, and the costs of locating and validating appropriately
high-quality external packages are (sometimes prohibitively) high.

But I think I'm getting to the point where I'm adding more confusion
than information, so I'll bow out of this discussion at this point.

Paul.
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