On 24 September 2013 08:29, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote: > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:38:48 -0700 > Ethan Furman <et...@stoneleaf.us> wrote: >> > But that's because you already know what it's supposed to convey. The >> > average user doesn't, and only sees "unraisable". >> >> All the more reason to have text in the error message that is easily >> searchable. > > Then I propose "CA6yuaYV6dygPfJRxUrhtg". It should be easily > searchable ;-) > > Seriously, "easily searchable" is a rather weak criterion for an > error message. It should be easily understandable and non-misleading > first.
You are setting the bar unreasonably high for an error message that has to convey a complex concept in as few words as possible. There is *NO* wording that can concisely express the concepts involved without resorting to jargon, because the concepts behind it are *complex and unintuitive*. The current wording is flat out wrong, because the exception isn't being ignored, it's being printed to stderr. If it was genuinely being ignored, people wouldn't complain about it. Jargon that can be easily looked up with a search engine is greatly superior to a message that is simply wrong, as the former provides a gateway to understanding, just like coming across a word you don't understand when reading a novel. Preferring the status quo because you're holding out a forlorn hope for a concise wording that explains: - there are places where exceptions may occur but the interpreter can't reraise them - this is one of those cases, so we're printing it to stderr instead *without users needing to do any research*. A verbose wording is no good either, as that degenerates into a wall of text that people will *still* have to extract pieces from to plug into a search engine to figure out what they mean. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
