On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:09:22 +0000 > Brett Cannon <bcan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I would really love to have better startup times in production, but > I > > > would also really hate to lose the ability to hack around in stdlib > > > sources during development just to get better startup performance. > > > > > > In general, what I really like about using Python for software > > > development is the ability to open any stdlib file and easily go poking > > > around using stuff like 'import pdb;pdb.set_trace()' or simple print > > > statements. Researching mysterious behaviour is generally much much > > > MUCH! easier (read: takes less hours/days/weeks) if it ends up leading > > > into a stdlib Python module than if it takes you down into the bowels > of > > > some C module (think zipimport.c *grin*). Not to mention the effect > that > > > being able to quickly resolve a mystery by hacking on some Python > > > internals leaves you feeling very satisfied, while having to entrench > > > yourself in those internals for a long time just to find out you've > made > > > something foolish on your end leaves you feeling exhausted at best. > > > > > > > Freezing modules does not affect the ability to use gdb. And as long as > you > > set the appropriate __file__ values then tracebacks will contain even the > > file line and location. > > I sympathize with Jurko's opinion. Being able to poke inside stdlib > source files makes Python more approachable. I'm sure several of us got > into Python that way. > > Regards > > Antoine. I also wouldn't want that to be the default but Martin also suggested a -Z cmdline option which sounds like an interesting idea to me. ...Or maybe simply use the existent -O option, which doesn't really optimize much AFAIK. -- Giampaolo - http://grodola.blogspot.com
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