Hi Barry, I think it's a nice idea.
Related to the name, on the windows c++ there's "DebugBreak": https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms679297(v=vs.85).aspx, which I think is a better name (so, it'd be debug_break for Python -- I think it's better than plain breakpoint(), and wouldn't clash as debug()). For the PyDev.Debugger (https://github.com/fabioz/PyDev.Debugger), which is the one used by PyDev & PyCharm, I think it would also work. For instance, for adding the debugger in PyDev, there's a template completion that'll add the debugger to the PYTHONPATH and start the remote debugger (same as pdb.set_trace()): i.e.: the 'pydevd' template expands to something as: import sys;sys.path.append(r'path/to/ide/shipped_debugger/pysrc') import pydevd;pydevd.settrace() I think I could change the hook on a custom sitecustomize (there's already one in place in PyDev) so that the debug_break() would actually read some env var to do that work (and provide some utility for users to pre-setup it when not launching from inside the IDE). Still, there may be other settings that the user needs to pass to settrace() when doing a remote debug session -- i.e.: things such as the host, port to connect, etc -- see: https://github.com/fabioz/PyDev.Debugger/blob/master/pydevd.py#L1121, so, maybe the debug_break() method should accept keyword arguments to pass along to support other backends? Cheers, Fabio On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Barry Warsaw <ba...@python.org> wrote: > On Sep 6, 2017, at 07:46, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: > > > > IIRC they indeed insinuate debug() into the builtins. My suggestion is > also breakpoint(). > > breakpoint() it is then! I’ll rename the sys hooks too, but keep the > naming scheme of the existing sys hooks. > > Cheers, > -Barry > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ > fabiofz%40gmail.com > >
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