> > Why can'y you make `name` on `NamedObjectItem` a property that returns ` > self.obj.name`? Why store a duplicate copy of the name? >
Agreed, it's probably a better design not to store a duplicate reference to name. But when I tried that, the property clashed with the inherited field. This caused the creation of the dataclass to fail as it thought that the property was the default value for the field 'name'. Even if I set a default for the obj field, it crashed as it tried to set the default value for name to the read-only property. Although I can think of situations where properties wouldn't be sufficent as you only want to calculate the value once per instance on creation. My thought is that most dataclasses would still be sensible and useful even if all mutation ability was removed from them. Taking an example directly from the PEP: @dataclass class C: i: int j: int = None database: InitVar[DatabaseType] = None def __post_init__(self, database): if self.j is None and database is not None: self.j = database.lookup('j') Maybe I'm thinking of dataclasses wrong but this still make complete sense and is useful even if its declared as frozen. My thought is that initialisation logic and immutability is orthogonal to each other. Possibly initialisation logic like this should occur before the instance is created so it would work for immutable types as well. A possible idea could be, instead of __post_init__, there is __pre_init__ which allows altering of fields before the instance is created. It would take a dict as first argument which contain the field values passed into the 'constructor' and default values would also be filled out. @dataclass class C: i: int j: int = None database: InitVar[DatabaseType] @classmethod def __pre_init__(cls, fields: Dict[str, Any], database: DatabaseType): if fields['j'] is None and database is not None: fields['j'] = database.lookup('j') I personally see two problems with this idea: 1. This isn't as ergonomic as __post_init__ is as its modifing a dictionary instead of its instance. 2. To implement this, it would require a metaclass.
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