For a proposed nose successor, pynose doesn’t seem to have gained much community traction so far: it has seven stars on GitHub[1] (compared to 770 for nose2, which itself was never that widely adopted and has fewer than ten dependent packages in Fedora); and the imperfect but fairly useful reverse dependency index at Wheelodex[2] shows only three packages that explicitly depend on it.

As far as I can tell, pynose exists because SeleniumBase[3] found it easier to fork nose than to port away from it. I’m *definitely* not saying we should only package things with a bunch of GitHub stars, but I do have some concerns about whether or not pynose is going to remain a generally-useful project in the medium-to-long term.

[1] https://github.com/mdmintz/pynose/stargazers

[2] https://www.wheelodex.org/projects/pynose/rdepends/

[3] https://github.com/seleniumbase/SeleniumBase

On 4/11/24 9:17 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 11. 04. 24 15:05, Sandro wrote:
On 11-04-2024 13:54, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 11. 04. 24 11:55, Sandro wrote:
While I ponder those thoughts some more, moving forward in either direction, the next step would be writing a change proposal?

I'd start by:

Packaging pynose without hacks (only making it Conflict with nose, no compatibility Provides, Obsoletes or dist-infos).

That way, pro-active packagers can switch already.

That makes sense. Review is up [1]. If enough packagers adapt, I may not need to go through the changes process.

And the change proposal can then describe what will be *added* to pynose, rather than describing the approach from scratch.

Since predicting the future is difficult, I'll start on writing up a proposal while the package is being introduced, anyway.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274514

I see "# Package doesn't provide any tests" in the %check section.
That certainly feels a bit dodgy. This successor of a test framework decided to ditch all of the tests it used to have? That is certainly a red flag.

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