On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Michel Desmoulin > <desmoulinmic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Proposal B: >> ------------ >> >> Make pip and venv part of the standard and request debian that they >> provide it. >> >> Pros: straight forward. >> >> Cons: holy war in the making. > > If this would really cause such back-lash, how about: Make pip and > venv part of the standard, but permit them to be omitted from > "python3" as long as there is a "python3-full" package that will drag > them in. Several other packages are split up like that. > > Pros: Only slightly less straight-forward, and hopefully incites only > a small war. > > Cons: What does "full" really mean? Does it require a GUI subsystem, > for instance (as a dep of tkinter)? Might just shift the problem. > OTOH, the sorts of people who run non-graphical Linuxes are usually > going to be comfortable installing python3-pip explicitly, so maybe > it's doable.
Oh, forgot to give a clear opinion: Even if the compromise isn't viable, I am still +1 on auto-installing pip. There's already a python3-minimal package for people who want "just the interpreter, please" installs. ChrisA _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/