One of the reasons Guido left was the insane volume of emails he had to read on Python-ideas.
> A tiny bit of discussion is still better than none at all. > And even if there's no discussion, there's a name attached > to the message, which makes it more personal and meaningful > than a "+1" counter getting incremented somewhere. > > Counting only makes sense if the counts are going to be > treated as votes, and we don't do that. I agree. I think this is good evidence in favor of using GitHub pull requests or GitHub issues- you can see exactly who +1’d a topic. GitHub also has moderation tools and the ability to delete comments that are irrelevant, and edit comments that are disrespectful. > I hope that, if any such change is made, a forum system is > chosen that allows full participation via either email or news. > Otherwise it will probably mean the end of my participation, > because I don't have time to chase down and wrestle with > multiple web forums every day. +1, everyone should be accommodated. I believe GitHub has direct email capability. If you watch the repository and have email notifications on, you can reply directly to an email and it will be sent as a reply. — To solve the problem of tons of email for controversial decisions like :=, I don’t think GitHub issues would actually be the solution. The best solution would to have admins receive all the email, and broadcast a subset of the email sent, only broadcasting new arguments and new opinions. Admins can do this “summary duty” every 12 hours on a rotating basis, where each admin takes turns doing summary duty. This solution would mean a slower iteration time for the conversation, but it would significantly lessen the deluge of email, and I think that would make it more bearable for people participating in the conversation. After all, once a proposal has been fleshed out, what kind of conversation needs more than say 30 rounds of constructive discussion- in that case, if people reply every 25 hours, the discussion would be done in a month. For transparency purposes, all of the email can be made received for approval can be published online. _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
