> > How do you propose, instead, for the constantness of something to be > indicated?
That's a good question. I honestly don't use constants all that much, I like to move such things out to config files. For a constant like math.pi, it's never been caps, yet people know it's not a great idea to change it. There are a lot of tools to indicate constantness: 1) provide a property to access an otherwise _plz_dont_touch_variable 2) Use an Enum 3) Use documentation to say: treat this as constant 4) Rely upon consenting adults to not change variables outside of scope. It's weird to manipulate math.pi because it's in a separate module. I stopped using all caps a long time ago and it just hasn't created a problem because manipulating global variables without knowing what they are is such a bad idea to begin with. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 5:16 PM Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:10 AM Abe Dillon <abedil...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> So you're saying we should prefer a future where it's an inconsistent > mess? > > > > No. And please don't straw man. It's a very annoying argumentative > tactic. I prefer a future where all caps aren't used. I understand that the > change I propose won't magically transport us there, but I don't think it > justifies encouraging all caps. As it is, the mix of all caps, camel-case, > and snake-case IS and inconsistent and visual mess. Discouraging all caps > will only result in a diminishing occurrence of all caps. > > > >> it's.more important to have a standard than what that standard is. And > we do have a strong standard today. > > > > I understand that there's a barrier to change, but there's also a > circular logic to resisting change because adhering to a standard is good. > > > > How bad would it really be to remove the line about constants being all > caps from PEP-8? > > How do you propose, instead, for the constantness of something to be > indicated? > > ChrisA > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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