I have only read the posts on this thread, but the description sounded more like a AOT compiler (like Cython, Pythran, Nuitka) than a JIT compiler (like PyPy or Numba).
Regards Antoine. PS : PyPy has its own codegen AFAIK, it doesn't use LLVM. On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 12:28:45 -0400 David Mertz <me...@gnosis.cx> wrote: > Also PyPy and Numba. > > Cython actually seems a bit different. Without annotations in a superset > language, Cython programs mostly just use the same CPython runtime > libraries. However, with a few type annotations sprinkled in (but not > actual Python syntax), it can get big speedups). > > PyPy actually tried to do direct-to-machine-code for a while. But my > understanding is that they decided—as did Numba—that building on top of the > work of LLVM was more effective (and more cross-architecture). > > Obviously, the ad for a commercial product leaves a bad taste in my mouth. > But it's also not like there aren't already 5 or more open source projects > that do a similar thing better already. > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2019, 12:03 PM Antoine Pitrou > <solipsis-xnda5wrcr86stnjn9+b...@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > How is your approach different from, say, Cython, Nuitka or Pythran? > > > > Regards > > > > Antoine. > > > > > > On Sun, 08 Sep 2019 15:56:04 -0000 > > "Mark @pysoniq" <m...@pysoniq.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Anders, > > > > > > The availability of a free extension every 30 days is a big benefit to > > the Python community that may not be immediately obvious. That’s not your > > standard freemium, as it has all the “features” of the paid product -- full > > registers, multicore, SIMD and other optimizations – so when we say it’s > > $600 per year of advanced software, that’s true. Our view is that the free > > extension every 30 days can make a huge difference to a developer with > > funding limitations (like us). If that free extension makes their project > > much more successful, then the entire Python community benefits. > > > > > > We considered this as an open source project, but we haven’t done that > > for two reasons: > > > > > > We have looked for and not found a large enough community of volunteers > > who have the skills to translate Python directly to assembly language > > without intermediate representation, and optimize the instructions, to make > > it open source. > > > > > > Open source projects are often very underfunded and don’t have enough > > volunteers even from a larger pool of possible people. For example, at > > PyCon 2019 Victor Stinner eloquently discussed the funding problems at > > python.org – a shrinking volunteer base and growing issues list. > > > > > > If I am wrong and there is a large enough group with the requisite > > skills, then of course we’re very open to the idea of open source, but the > > technologies used are very leading edge. And again, if you view it with > > nuance, the $600 a year (12 extensions) could make a huge difference to an > > under-funded project, of which there are many! > > > > > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Python-ideas mailing list -- > > > python-ideas-+zn9apsxkcednm+yrof...@public.gmane.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > python-ideas-leave-+zn9apsxkcednm+yrof...@public.gmane.org > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ > > > Message archived at > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas-+zn9apsxkcednm+yrof...@public.gmane.org/message/VTIZHUNUMKM7VTVMUCXP6LCZFKVSBUX5/ > > > > > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-ideas mailing list -- > > python-ideas-+zn9apsxkcednm+yrof...@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > python-ideas-leave-+zn9apsxkcednm+yrof...@public.gmane.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ > > Message archived at > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas-+zn9apsxkcednm+yrof...@public.gmane.org/message/3WZZ7LYLN3DCDMQZASOSBLSVDUDSBWVO/ > > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > > _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/WPFZ5X5QGW2SMSQJ2UX34Q3ZTS2LOR7K/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
