On 2020-05-01 2:46 p.m., Steele Farnsworth wrote:
So this would make `a` a new keyword. I don't think that could be added into python 4 at the earliest because it would immediately break all code for which `a` is a variable name.

we could have keyphrases instead of keywords, tbh.


I can appreciate wanting to make simple operations easy to read, though I think this relies too much on understanding English and wouldn't be intuitive for people who aren't English speaking. I am native English speaking so I wouldn't know for sure, but I think accepting that "or" is the same as "||" is an easier jump to make than "x is a y" being a construct for indicating that x belongs to the y class.

If you need this English-style syntax, I believe `type(x) is y` is guaranteed to be True if x is exactly of the y type and not one of its super classes.

On Fri, May 1, 2020, 1:27 PM gbs--- via Python-ideas <python-ideas@python.org <mailto:python-ideas@python.org>> wrote:

    In cases where it makes sense to do explicit type checking (with
    ABCs or whatever), I really detest the look of the isinstance()
    function.

    if isinstance(thing, Fruit) and not isinstance(thing, Apple):

    Yucky.

    What I really want to write is:

    if thing is a Fruit and thing is not an Apple:

    and after thinking about it on and off for a while I wonder if it
    might indeed be possible to teach the parser to handle that in a
    way that eliminates almost all possible ambiguity with the regular
    "is", including perhaps 100% of all existing standard library code
    and almost all user code?

    Maybe this has been considered at some point in the past? The "is
    [not] a|an" proposal would at least be a strong contender for
    "hardest thing to search for on the internet" lol.

    Thanks!

    Gavin
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