On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:04 PM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <
arj.pyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This list is about discussing the idea,
> not only stating an opinion. I know
> i am not endearing people to me but i
> prefer threads to remain short and on
> topic which helps projects like these:
> https://abdur-rahmaanj.github.io/pyfaq
> The lists make great finds but it's more
> difficult when many mails which don't
> bring value to the discussion are present
>

Having some number of +1/-1s are useful in python-ideas threads, especially
coming from those with significant relevant experience or have some
influence in whether the proposal will be eventually accepted (such as core
devs, who could potentially sponsor the eventual PEP). In-depth feedback
contributes more to the topic, but without those +1/-1s, it's harder to
assess if the idea has gained enough traction to justify turning it into a
PEP (or simply implementing a feature).

Sorry if that adds to the volume of messages to sort through, but that's
just simply how python-ideas works.

FWIW, I'm personally against the proposal because it's trivial to look up
the PEP to figure out those additional details, which you would likely have
to do anyways if you weren't familiar with that PEP. It's not worth a
significant change in convention that would require a significant mental
shift from practically the entire Python community. It would require a
conscious effort to check if the PEP was accepted prior to deciding whether
to use "PEP" or "PAP", as well as the initial learning to figure out "WTF
is a PAP?". For an individual it would be a small cost, but if you were to
consider that small cost replicated for all of the millions of Python users
and thousands of reference materials that would need to be updated to
address "PAP", it doesn't seem worth the marginal at best benefit.

Regards,
Kyle Stanley
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