On Tuesday 15 September 2009 19:04:10 r wrote: > On Sep 15, 4:12 am, Hendrik van Rooyen <hend...@microcorp.co.za> > wrote: > (snip) > > > When a language lacks a word for a concept like "window", then (I > > believe :-) ), it kind of puts a crimp in the style of thinking that a > > person will do, growing up with only that language. > > Are you telling us people using a language that does not have a word > for window somehow cannot comprehend what a window is, are you mad > man? Words are simply text attributes attached to objects. the text > attribute doesn't change the object in any way. just think of is > __repr__
No - All I am asserting, is the unfashionable view that your first language forms the way you think. It goes deeper than the simple vocabulary problem you are describing, even though that is serious enough. I still assert that if your language does not have a word for something, and you have never seen that object, then you "__cannot__" think about it, because you do not have the tools in your kitbag that you need to do so. - no word, no concept, the empty set. And I would even assert that, when you meet the object, and acquire a word for it, it is painful for you to think about it, because it is a new thing for you. You then have to go through a painful process of integrating that new thing into your world view, before you are able to use and reference it easily. - did, for instance, the concept of "an abstract class" just jump into your head, and stick there immediately, complete with all its ramifications, in the minute immediately after hearing about it for the first time? Or did you need a bit of time to understand it and get comfortable? And were you able to, and did you, think about it "before" hearing of it? If you answer those questions honestly, you will catch my drift. The opposite thing is of course a continual source of trouble - we all have words for stuff we have never seen, like "dragon", "ghost", "goblin", "leprechaun", "the current King of France", "God", "Allah", "The Holy Trinity", "Lucifer", "Satan", "Griffin" - and because we have words for these things, we can, and unfortunately do, think about them, in a fuzzy fashion, to our own detriment. People even go around killing other people, based on such fuzzy thinking about stuff that can not be shown to exist. - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
