Dotan Cohen schrieb:
While I know that to be true in the general sense, from what I've
looked at Django and other frameworks it seems that the web frameworks
push the coder to use templates, not letting him near the HTML.
For instance, I was looking for a class / framework that provided a
proven method of decoding cookies (setting them is no problem),
decoding POST and GET variables, escaping variables for safe entry
into MySQL, and other things. Django and the other frameworks seem to
force the user to use templates. I just want the functions, and to
print the HTML as stdout to the browser making the request. I had to
settle on PHP to do this, which admittedly is what PHP was invented to
do. However, for obvious reasons, I would have prefered to code in
Python. In fact, I still would.
I should probably expand on this:
How can I get an array with all the GET variables in Python?
How can I get an array with all the POST variables in Python?
How can I get an array with all the COOKIE variables in Python?
How can I get the request URI path (everything after
http://[www.?]example.com/)?
That's all I want: no templates and nothing between me and the HTML.
The HTTP headers I can output to stdout myself as well.
Again: if you insist on doing everything yourself - then of course any
library or framework isn't for you.
But then do you deal with headers correctly? Do you respect character
encodings? Form-encodings? Is your generated HTML valid? Are
timestamp-formats generated according to RFCs for your cookies? Do you
parse content negotiation headers?
I think you underestimate the task it is to make a webapplication good.
And even if not, what you will do is ... code your own webframework.
Because there is a lot of boilerplate otherwis. If that's a
learning-experience your after, fine.
Besides, yes, you can get all these things nonetheless. You just don't
need them most of the time.
And at least pylons/TG2 lets you return whatever you want instead, as a
string. Not via "print" though - which is simply only for CGI, and no
other means (e.g. mod_wsgi) of python-web-programming.
Diez
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