>> I insist on handling the HTML myself. > > I just don't get how embedding HTML in applicative code - a well-known > antipattern FWIW - relates to "handling the HTML yourself". Can you *please* > explain how a templating system prevents you from "handling the HTML" > yourself. >
>From the little that I played with Django, it looked like I would (for the sake of argument I am just using the term output, but the intention should be clear) output "Hello, world!" and Django would mangle that into <html><body><p>Hello, world!</p></body></html>. It did not look like I had any control over the tags at all. >>> And >>> even if not, what you will do is ... code your own webframework. >> >> That is why I am looking for a class that handles the backend stuff, >> but lets _me_ handle the HTML. > > For God's sake : *why on earth do you believe that using a templating system > will make you loose _any_ control on the HTML code ???* > Because that's what I've seen of them. >>> And at least pylons/TG2 lets you return whatever you want instead, as a >>> string. Not via "print" though - which is simply only for CGI, and no >>> other >>> means (e.g. mod_wsgi) of python-web-programming. >>> >> >> I am trying to follow you here. What is "return whatever you want"? >> Return HTML to stdout to be sent to the browser? > > please leave stdout out of here - it's HTTP, so what we have are HTTP > requests and HTTP responses - not stdin nor stdout. Using these streams as a > mean of communication between the web server and the applicative code is > just plain old low-level GCI stuff. Your application code shouldn't have any > knowledge of this implementation detail - it should receive (a suitable > representation of) an HTTP request, and generate (a suitable representation > of) an HTTP response. Can you provide a code example of printing the variable "torvalds" in the GET request? http://example.com/page.py?torvalds=tux Should return this: <html><body><p>tux</p></body></html> And something similar for a POST request? I hate to ask for code, but this conversation would be easier that way. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
