I am new to Python programming, actually new to any programming language. I 
sent the email below to the "pythonmac-...@python.org a few days ago. So far I 
have not seen a reply, actually, I have not seen anything from pythonmac in any 
emails although I am supposed to be a member. 


I don't know if I am sending these to the correct place or if I am not 
receiving emails from the pythonmac list. I would appreciate any assistance 
either in how do I get to the pythonmac list or answers to the issue below. I 
went to the pythonmac list because I am trying to run Python 3.3 on a Mac 
computer. 


Thank you, 


Walter 
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From: "Walter Hughey" <wkhug...@gmail.com> 
To: pythonmac-...@python.org 
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 11:54:49 AM 
Subject: Newcomer Help 


Greetings, 
I am new at Python programming, technically a newbie at writing programming 
code. I have been involved in the maintenance of computers for several years 
and have decided to increase my knowledge and experience. I am taking a course 
that - although not a programming course - does require writing of code. I am 
trying to use Python to write the code. 


I use a Mac computer and the first issue is getting working with Python. The 
computer I currently use is running Mac OS X 10.6.8, Intel Core i5 Processor, 
with 4GB RAM. It has Python 2.3, 2.5, and 2.6 installed by Apple. I have added 
Python 3.3, the version our Professor recommended. I have checked out the 
Python installed by Apple and can enter in code and it works, but I need to 
create a file, run it, and then provide it for the Professor to grade and I 
don't know how with the Apple installed version. 


While reading about Python, I saw comments about the note concerning outdated 
software: If you are using Python from a python.org 64-bit/32-bit Python 
installer for Mac OS X 10.6 and later , you should only use IDLE or tkinter 
with an updated third-party Tcl/Tk 8.5, like ActiveTcl 8.5 installed. 


I located, downloaded and installed the recommended version of ActiveTcl 
8.5.15.0. When I open Idle, I see a warning that "The version of Tcl/Tk (8.5.7) 
in use may be unstable." I received this warning both before and after 
installing the software above. I open Idle, choose "New File" then most often 
the computer will freeze, Idle does nothing, cannot enter text into the text 
box, cannot close the application either with the red circle or by selecting 
Idle>Close Idle. As often as that, Idle freezes as soon as I open new file, and 
I cannot close without resorting to Force Quit. 


I have removed and re-installed Python after downloading and installing the 
Tcl/Tk software and it does not help. I have seen this work fine on a Mac 
running Mac OS X 10.8.3. I really just need to get this working on the older 
version. 


A am not only new to Python, I am new on this list and hope I have started my 
stay here in the correct manner! 


Thank you, 


Walter 
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