On 17/03/2015 02:52, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 11:50:33 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 16/03/2015 14:37, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 7:57:08 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 16/03/2015 14:19, Rustom Mody wrote:
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Anyways...
Yes 15 years are past.
I dont expect the def can be revoked now.
[As far as I am concerned its a minor wart]
But the mess around the docs can certainly be cleaned up.
So write the patches to correct the docs, then raise the issue on the
bug tracker to get the patches accepted. IIRC for doc patches you don't
even have to provide diff files against the rst files, plain text will
do, the core devs will do the rest for you.
I would gladly do that if it was a minor correction here and there.
But the problem is a bit deeper even though it can be kept mostly¹ in the docs
and not modify any syntax/semantics of python.
In particular for:
def potato(x):
yield x+1
tomato = potato(3)
what shall we call potato and tomato.
I believe this thread clearly shows that the docs are confused and inconsistent.
Yet I dont see any consensus on what/how to classify tomato/potato.
Function -- trouble on one side
Generator -- trouble on another
Iterator -- trouble on third
etc
¹ Grey areas excepted eg output of help(); inspect module etc
So the docs are confused and inconsistent but in an open source
community it's not *MY* responsibility to deal with it, somebody else can.
Making mountains out of mole hills is all I see in this entire thread.
Ok... Lets see... What if any agreement is there on this.
To start with basic terminology. Given
def potato(x):
yield x+1
tomato = potato(3)
What shall we call potato and tomato?
Steven suggested that potato can be called 'factory'
Not ideal, but way better than 'generator-function'.
Oscar does not like it.
No better/other suggestions (that we see here).
What next?
Ok Let me throw out a suggestion:
- potato is a generator
- tomato is a cursor.
Acceptable?
No. In Python potato is a generator function, tomato is a generator.
Why complicate something that is so simple? I couldn't care less what
they are called in any other language.
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