On 2023-03-17 at 11:55:38 +1300, dn via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote:
> Do you make use of your IDE's expansionist tendencies, and if-so, which > ones? Expansionist tendencies. Nice phrase. :-) > NB this is where vi/emacs enthusiasts start chuckling (polite term for > 'insane cackling') ... Long time (since the 1980s, when you had to edit config.h and compile it yourself) insane emacs enthusiast and "Unix is my IDE" claimant here. I used one language that required a special editor because the "source code" was a semi-compiled byte stream instead of ASCII. A coworker once awarded me a black belt in vi for knowing how to indent and unindent code. They made me write in Java at my last job; that language encourages IDEs beause they deny that the underlying OS and tools exist at all. I used to say that some of my coworkers weren't writing Java, they were writing IntelliJ. Anyway, the short answer to your question is no. I think the main reason is that there are/were too many editors in too many contexts to start depending on such features. What happens if I'm editing on a target box instead of my desktop? What if I'm helping a coworker, and they use a different editor (different tools for different programmers)? > I haven't made use of such a tool, to-date - OK, yes, I have practised a > high typing-speed (and accuracy). Puff, puff... I, too, type relatively quickly, which definitely relieves some of the appeal. Saving a few keystrokes isn't worth the extra congnitive load to remember how to use those features. And by the time I edit the template, it's more keystrokes (and usually cursor motion and placeholder deletion keystrokes not related to the programming task at hand) than if I had typed the full code in the first place. > Also, at the time, I'm thinking in 'code', rather than about what tool might > implement said ideas. Exactly. Any excursion away from the programming language and the programming task at hand is disruptive. I did finally train myself to use Emacs' dabbrev-expand function, which completes the current "word" according to the previous occurrance of that word, which lets me use longer identifiers without having to type them out or copy/paste them. That said, I often find myself typing stuff out anyway, again because any deviation from writing code is a deviation from writing code. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
