Hmm - so C++11 isn't usable in windows maya plugins yet? Bummer... their linux spec supports it, sort of:
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/maya/getting-started/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Maya-SDK/files/Setting-up-your-build-environment-Linux-compiler-requirement-htm.html I've made a few small plugins that used C++11, and they seemed to work. (Word on the street about the split I haven't used C++11 much yet myself, but there's a bunch of features that I kept thinking / wishing were in C++, that when I looked up, found out would be in C++11. The unique_ptr / shared_ptr - would probably be worth it alone, for me (they were the most common reason I would add boost dependencies, which was obviously overkill). Other things I've wished I'd had at various points included static asserts, ability to call a construction from within another constructor of the same class, and initialization lists for classes. On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:24 PM Justin Israel <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd actually like to hear input from those that have used c++11 in a > production capacity, about what features they have found most useful. > > "auto" is just a convenience really > Shared pointers are nice without needing Boost or Qt. > Move semantics seems cool if you are trying to write some efficient code. > Lambdas for sure would be great. > > On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 9:14 AM Justin Israel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am responding to your suggestion that one wants the latest and greatest >> cutting edge technology. I didn't understand why you would require c++11 >> just to be cutting edge and up to date. I was asking what exactly you >> wanted from c++11 that would justify the effort? It felt to me that your >> only reason was the it was newer. What would you use from it? >> >> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:02 PM Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> What are we arguing here exactly? :) Marketing versus Progress? Looks >>> like a stalemate to me. >>> >>> I got what I was looking for; if you are to use C++11 with Maya, you'll >>> need to go the long way around. Whether it's worth it or not depends on >>> what you do. In your case, maybe it isn't worth it, in my case, maybe it >>> is, hence the question. >>> >>> On 8 January 2016 at 09:39, Justin Israel <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 9:17 PM Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > stdin/stdout are file descriptors. sockets are file descriptors. >>>>> Technically its all the same camp where you read and write and poll >>>>> their status. >>>>> >>>>> Ah. I was under the impression that sockets had to go the TCP route, >>>>> through the network card, but this would make more sense. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Unix domain sockets don't go through TCP. they are more like named pipes >>>> >>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_domain_socket >>>> >>>> >>>>> > But what features of C++11 are you itching for that would make your >>>>> plugin so much more performant or easier to maintain? >>>>> >>>>> Haha, nothing in particular. You know you could have said the same >>>>> thing about newer versions of anything, right? "What about Maya 2016 will >>>>> make your work so much better looking and easier to make?" :) >>>>> >>>>> I would like to progress, wouldn't you? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well that would just be like following marketing hype, right? "newer, >>>> faster, better". >>>> But if you aren't going to use any c++11 features, then what is the >>>> point of going to extra trouble to use it in a portable way? You could just >>>> keep coding in more portable c++ for a bit longer until the stragglers fall >>>> off and C++11 is a minimum requirement. Vfxplatform 2016 still only >>>> specifies gcc 4.8 >>>> http://www.vfxplatform.com >>>> >>>> I haven't been writing production c++ for too long yet (almost a year) >>>> but I have managed so far using boost or qt. Maybe lambdas would have been >>>> nice? 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