awesome, thank you so much for the tip AK Eric!! I didn't know, that is such a gamechanger! cheers
Le samedi 18 septembre 2021 à 14:32:28 UTC-4, AK Eric a écrit : > FWIW, I've always had trouble using pip to install python packages in > Python 2.7. I'm now on 2022 / Python 3.7 now, and installing packages via > pip amazingly, 'just works'. I can install matplotlib, numpy, scipy, > pandas, tensorflow, etc, all just via pip. > > Run shell as admin and: > > "C:\Program Files\Autodesk\Maya2022\bin\mayapy.exe" -m pip install > matplotlib --target "C:\some\optional\custom\path\if\you\want\site-packages" > > Autodesk themselves have updated their docs with this info: > > https://help.autodesk.com/view/MAYAUL/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-72A245EC-CDB4-46AB-BEE0-4BBBF9791627 > > Now, this won't help you if you're *still on Python 2.7* : Just calling > out that there 'is hope', somewhere in the future, once you move to Python > 3. > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:51:56 PM UTC-7 justin hidair wrote: > >> Re, unfortunately those env variables are not discarding vs2008 >> tried as admin, tried to restart , tried powershell as well >> it's as if nothing happened at all, quite frustrating honestly >> >> > I don't have much experience compiling on windows so maybe a windows >> user will recognize the fix. >> >> man you're blessed not to have to deal with such bullsh*t >> >> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:07:15 PM UTC+2 justin hidair wrote: >> >>> thank you guys going to try all the suggestions >>> but wouldn't it make sense to have the same MSVC version as the one they >>> built their python with ? >>> >>> [image: cmd_uw6R7GsUGh.png] >>> >>> this is visual studio 2015 here not 2017, so ??? >>> but yeah let's go on with the rest of the suggestions first >>> >>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:00:17 PM UTC+2 justin...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 25 May 2021, 5:41 am justin hidair, <justin...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> here's the best I managed >>>>> https://gist.github.com/yetigit/c2f55bdb8b1798b2936687567f9c6c1e >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Looks like maybe the wrong Visual Studio C++ compiler for Maya 2020? In >>>> addition to C++being difficult to build, combining that with Maya on >>>> Windows is even harder. >>>> I don't have much experience compiling on windows so maybe a windows >>>> user will recognize the fix. >>>> A quick look shows that Maya 2020 says it uses Visual Studio C++ 2017. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:59:52 PM UTC+2 Marcus Ottosson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could you post some of those error messages? Maybe someone here >>>>>> recognises and could help resolve those. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t think there’s a silver bullet, each library build has its >>>>>> quirks and challenges despite the community trying to adhere to >>>>>> standards >>>>>> there are like massive disparities on how easy it is to build something >>>>>> versus how confusing and annoying it is to build another >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we’ve got C and C++ to thank for this haha. Or rather, thank >>>>>> Python for shielding us from the horrors of compiled software out there, >>>>>> it’s hard to understate how much more accessible it makes programming >>>>>> for >>>>>> this benefit alone. I bet anyone dabbling with C++ can attest to the >>>>>> pain >>>>>> and recurrence of dependencies in everyday life. For a modern example, >>>>>> just >>>>>> look at USD! >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, it’s certainly possible. One clue might be looking at how >>>>>> the native Python packages are built for matplotlib. >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/blob/master/.github/workflows/cibuildwheel.yml >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The curveball Maya throws at you is that most build scripts out there >>>>>> assume a system-wide install of Python, and makes hardcoded assumptions >>>>>> about where to find libraries and headers. In a CI environment like >>>>>> that, >>>>>> it wouldn’t be unreasonable to mount Maya’s files over the native ones, >>>>>> to >>>>>> trick such build scripts into using the proper ones. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 12:15, justin hidair <justin...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> re, yes forgot to mention my attempts at compiling it were made with >>>>>>> mayapy.exe, still failed with opaque error messages >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think there's a silver bullet, each library build has its >>>>>>> quirks and challenges despite the community trying to adhere to >>>>>>> standards >>>>>>> there are like massive disparities on how easy it is to build >>>>>>> something versus how confusing and annoying it is to build another >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:41:44 AM UTC+2 Marcus Ottosson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This topic is so common it really needs to be highlighted >>>>>>>> somewhere. Maybe as a new Maya splash screen? xD >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: notcompatible] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem though is that many packages *are* compatible, it’s >>>>>>>> only the compiled packages that are not. So it’s understandable that >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> keeps getting confused. Can only imagine the number of hours lost >>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>> shoehorn PyPI into Maya, and the subsequent number of hours struggling >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> random crashes due to *suceeding* to shoehorn it in; when it seems >>>>>>>> to work - like NumPy sometime does - but really shouldn’t. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I even tried to compile it although failing countless times at that >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The trick is compiling it with *Maya’s* Python, it’s the only way. >>>>>>>> In most cases it really needs to be mayapy, since it itself was >>>>>>>> built with a different compiler than the one on python.org. The >>>>>>>> same compiler as Maya was built with, and the same compiler your >>>>>>>> library >>>>>>>> needs to be built with. Which is why you most often also need a >>>>>>>> separate >>>>>>>> build for each major version of Maya, see the development docs for >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> compiler version they use and when they switch. Some versions of Maya >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was looking for an example of how PyQt is compiled for Maya that >>>>>>>> isn’t too convoluted. The process would be similar here. The closest >>>>>>>> one I >>>>>>>> can find that contains each step is this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/pyqt/python-qt5/wiki/Compiling-PyQt5-on-Ubuntu-12.04 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Replacing any mention of python with mayapy and (optionally, but >>>>>>>> safest) explicitly passing Maya’s Python headers to configure.py >>>>>>>> or setup.py etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe someone else has a guide on compiling *anything* for Maya >>>>>>>> specifically? It can be really hard, like NumPy, because of all the >>>>>>>> dependencies involved. But sometimes the light shines on you and it’ll >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> over before you know it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 06:20, Alok Gandhi <alok.ga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the only this would work is to compile it against the maya >>>>>>>>> version you are using, unless there is some existing pre-built >>>>>>>>> binaries >>>>>>>>> that I am not aware of. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Another approach, though very convoluted, would be to first create >>>>>>>>> a system level command (one that you can run outside maya from any >>>>>>>>> terminal >>>>>>>>> and accepts data, returns the result), call it from maya using either >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> Popen or os.system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021, 07:52 justin hidair <justin...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello here fellas, >>>>>>>>>> sorry for the form I'm on mobile >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've been trying everything to run matplotlib from maya (2020 win >>>>>>>>>> x64) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> that include installing it from mayapy.exe -m pip , downloading >>>>>>>>>> third-party packages and other older versions ;I even tried to >>>>>>>>>> compile it >>>>>>>>>> although failing countless times at that . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And the result most of the times was you could import matplotlib >>>>>>>>>> at first without apparent issues but as soon as you tried to import >>>>>>>>>> matplotlib.pyplot you would get errors of DLL loading failure (guess >>>>>>>>>> it has >>>>>>>>>> something to do with freetype and libpng binaries which matplotlib >>>>>>>>>> depends >>>>>>>>>> on) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now I really really want to use matplotlib from within maya. 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