On Feb 13, 2005, at 13:19, Arthur Elsenaar wrote:
On Feb 13, 2005, at 17:01, Troy Rollins wrote:
Well, I've transitioned between tools like Director, REALbasic, and Revolution, and extremely quickly moved into creating non-trivial applications. With Python, it is far less condusive to "playing" and therefore seems to hold me somewhere around the print "hello world" stage.
I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, but did anyone bring up PythonCard? I also previously used REALbasic and also have some Proce55ing experience. I did struggle to get started with Python, but PythonCard that is based on wxPython got me going. The PythonCard folks have the intention to make Python as easy to use as REALbasic. They aren't there yet, that's for sure, but it is useable.
Another fun project is DrawBot by Just, it's a Proce55ing like program to learn about graphics.
Yeah, DrawBot <http://drawbot.grafitron.com/> is really cool. It has syntax highlighting and a very quick edit/run cycle :) However, it doesn't "scale up" to writing anything but little DrawBot scripts. It's a fun learning tool though.
One of the drawbacks of using wxPython in my experience, was the threading support, something I really had to fight with; message queues? My next try will be PyObjC as it builds on a good application framework, but unfortunately it's not very cross platform friendly. (Does anyone know if Mono will have a Python binding?)
Cocoa is similar to most other things with regard to threading: your GUI code should in a single thread (in particular, the main thread). You will still need to use message queues (directly or indirectly) for communicating between threads.
IronPython runs on Mono, though Boo is probably a better choice because it's farther along than IronPython is -- though Boo isn't Python, it's probably close enough. I'm really not sure that Mono's GUI support is better than wx or anything else at this point...
-bob
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