On 9-feb-2006, at 2:40, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 8, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:I'm afraid that you're right about this, and I think it's the biggest obstacle to the project of getting (non-Unix) Mac users interested in Python when they go looking for a language, or just looking to get started on programming. Does the old PythonIDE come with OSX's Python?No, it has never shipped with Mac OS X. The old Python IDE is dead, forget it ever existed. It hasn't been touched in god knows how many years and a dependency it has is "non- free" and not available for i386.I really feel -- do people really think I'm wrong about this? -- that even PythonIDE, limited as it is, is a better beginners' recommendation than the Terminal.It's not even an option, we'd need to pick something else. IDLE is the only suitable library candidate for a beginners IDE, but only on Mac OS X 10.4 and later (since 10.3 did not ship with Tcl/Tk).
Tcl/Tk is avaible as a seperate download for 10.3
Technically IDLE should even work on a stock Mac OS X 10.4 system if
the user went to the scary terminal and typed:
pythonw -c "import idlelib.idle"
Seems like nice little project for someone that does want to push Apple's python,
build a (tiny) download that contains 'IDLE.app'. And presto, you have a simple IDE for someone that doesn't want to use the terminal ;-) Ronald
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