On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Russell E Owen wrote: > At 5:26 PM -0400 2006-09-25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I'm very interested in this and would be happy to help with >> testing. I teach Python at the college level using John Zelle's >> Python book (it uses Tk for simple GUI programs). Most of the >> programs run fine, but some of the more complex ones crash >> intermittently within Tk. The same program seems to run fine on >> Windows using 2.4.3 although it does crash intermittently on >> CentOS 4.3 within Tk. >> >> In the meantime, are you saying the simplest solution for my >> students with Macs is to use ActiveState (some have G4 laptops and >> some have Intel based laptops)? >> >> I have a G5 running 10.3.9 at work (IT isn't planning to upgrade >> yet) and a G5 running 10.4.x at home so I'll be happy to test on >> both of those. > > If it's bugs in Tcl/Tk that are causing the crashes then by all > means I would try: > - Install ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.4.11 or 8.4.13. > - Install MacPython (it's better than the one from Apple, plus > you're about to modify python, and you shouldn't modify anything > in /System) > - Modify _tkinter.so according to Bob Ippolito's recipe. At the > command line: > > install_name_tool \ > -change /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/ > Tcl \ > /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl \ > -change /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk \ > /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk \ > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/lib- > dynload/_tkinter.so > > The above command should be six lines long; you'll probably have to > unwrap at least the last line. > > An alternative is to install ActiveState Python instead of > MacPython, because it works with ActiveState Tcl/Tk "out of the > box". But it doesn't include readline. You can add readline, but I > think it's easier to fix _tkinter.so. > > -- Russell
I installed ActiveState Tcl and MacPython 2.4.3 on the 10.3.9 machine. The /Systems/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework directory does not exist (the Tcl.Framework directory does so I tried the above install_name_tool line with just the Tcl lines (and the final line with ._tkinter.so). I can't get some Tk programs to run now. Using the graphics.py file at: http://mcsp.wartburg.edu/zelle/python/graphics.py I get: $ /usr/local/bin/python Python 2.4.3 (#1, Apr 7 2006, 10:54:33) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5250)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import graphics >>> Tk_MacOSXSetupTkNotifier: first [load] of TkAqua has to occur in the main thread! Abort trap Does anyone still have a 10.3.9 system to try importing that graphics.py file and see if it works for them? Any thoughts on making it work? I have an old python 2.3.5 from fink that does import graphics.py ok and works fine for many simple programs but crashes on more complicated programs. I have not yet tried it on the 10.4.7 G5 yet. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
