I think /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages is a very old location for storing Python packages. Recently things have been installed in /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages.
Could it be that you’ve installed pyobjc a couple of OSX releases ago? And could it be that the OSX upgrade that introduced SIP somehow didn’t clean out user-installed things from /Library/Frameworks before turning off write permission? A possible workaround is to turn off SIP (or boot from the recovery partition), record what is in /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages and then clean it out. Then after a reboot re-install the packages you’re still using. Jack > On 13-Sep-2016, at 20:50 , Andrew Jaffe <a.h.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Chris and Glyph, >> >> On Sunday, September 11, 2016, Andrew Jaffe <a.h.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear Ronald, >> >> Thanks, as usual, for all this. >> >> I have upgraded to the GM version of 10.12 on the beta track. I use the >> python.org framework builds of python. >> >> When I do "pip list --outdated", I get a long list: > > …. > >> If I do the usual "pip --upgrade" for these, it fails, seemingly because of >> permissions (Apologies, but I don't have access to the messages anymore): it >> is clearly trying to delete these versions which seem to live in >> /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/. This fails, of >> course, due to permissions (and system integrity protection). >> >> You can, in fact, do the upgrade with the "--ignore-installed" flag in pip >> (although there's still a problem with pyobjc-framework-Message). >> >> So: are these errors expected? Is it something in my particular setup? Or >> the beta program? Is "--ignore-installed" the correct solution? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Andrew >> >>> On 13 Sep 2016, at 16:13, Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If you are dealing with stuff in /System, then you are dealing with the Ape >>> installed Python, not the Python.org build. >>> >>> It's easy for "pip" and python to get out of sync. >>> >>> Try "which pip" to see which pip you are running. >>> >>> This is why I recommend encoding pip via: >>> >>> python -m pip [args] > > [I tried to comment via the gmane newsgroup version of the lists and my > messages never appeared so I hope this works…] > > Just to be clear, I am indeed using the framework pip, which is part of why > this is so confusing. In the past, as far as I know, it’s never tried to have > anything to do with /System. Again, I don’t know if it’s something about > macOS 10.12 Sierra, or my particular setup that is the problem. Also, to be > clear, there are no PYTHON* or other environment variables that would affect > the python path. Here is a failing session… > > (Aside: I understand that "pyobjc-framework-Message” is actually a bad > example: it is the only package that even —-ignore-installed actually fails > on, because it has the "--single-version-externally-managed” problem which is > a different kettle of fish. But I think the above error message is the same > as the one that I would get for any of the other packages in question. Note > that pip2 install works fine for packages other than those in my original > list.) > > $ command which pip2 > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/pip2 > > $ pip2 install --upgrade pyobjc-framework-Message > Collecting pyobjc-framework-Message > Using cached pyobjc-framework-Message-3.1.1.tar.gz > Requirement already up-to-date: pyobjc-core>=3.1.1 in > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages > (from pyobjc-framework-Message) > Requirement already up-to-date: pyobjc-framework-Cocoa>=3.1.1 in > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages > (from pyobjc-framework-Message) > Installing collected packages: pyobjc-framework-Message > Found existing installation: pyobjc-framework-Message 2.5.1 > Uninstalling pyobjc-framework-Message-2.5.1: > Exception: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py", > line 215, in main > status = self.run(options, args) > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/install.py", > line 317, in run > prefix=options.prefix_path, > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_set.py", > line 736, in install > requirement.uninstall(auto_confirm=True) > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_install.py", > line 742, in uninstall > paths_to_remove.remove(auto_confirm) > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req/req_uninstall.py", > line 115, in remove > renames(path, new_path) > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/utils/__init__.py", > line 267, in renames > shutil.move(old, new) > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/shutil.py", > line 299, in move > copytree(src, real_dst, symlinks=True) > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/shutil.py", > line 208, in copytree > raise Error, errors > Error: > [('/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/__init__.py', > > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/__init__.py', > "[Errno 1] Operation not permitted: > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/__init__.py'"), > > ('/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/__init__.pyc', > > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/__init__.pyc', > "[Errno 1] Operation not permitted: > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/__init__.pyc'"), > > ('/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.py', > > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.py', > "[Errno 1] Operation not permitted: > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.py'"), > > ('/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.pyc', > > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.pyc', > "[Errno 1] Operation not permitted: > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message/_metadata.pyc'"), > > ('/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message', > > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message', > "[Errno 1] Operation not permitted: > '/var/folders/bk/zdhpxqj14y5fzcvlpybb4b640000gn/T/pip-Gd3OiE-uninstall/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC/Message'”)] > > > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - 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