Hi, guys, I am thinking about the method-centric approach. In earlier discussions, it was noted ( and i think agreed by most ) that the steps to create a particular object could be arbitrarily complex. I think the only method-centric format that will not result in loss of generality will be python code. ( Unless of course the file is a wrapper with some header information and a python code additionally ). It would be conceivable to store objects as a python script that creates the object without loss of generality, but I think there are several challenges with this:
* Performance would become a problem in larger models. i think there is a real need in cad systems for 'opaque' objects-- ones you can include and interact with, but cannot afford to rebuild every time. Examples would be an assembly with 1000 or so nuts and bolts * Dependency management comes into play. since python is a programming language that can import dependencies,a script to create an object might import libraries unavailable on another platform, or might use a different version of python, etc. If a python script is the serialization format,these dependencies must be considered. * the interface is not well defined. If a object is in a set format, for example STEP, the format defines a very specific 'interface'. in the case of step, a single step file contains a tree of entities that exist in a well defined structure and notation. the format defines how to infer this structure to learn what objects are in the file. A python script, though, could produce an arbitrary number of objects in an arbitrary strcture, and may not do it in a standard way. So, if a python script were used, it would need to export well-defined functions that allow a caller to get this information. Most of these challenges can be solved. Interestingly, I believe that following the 'module-based' will result in cad models handled much the same way as programming projects are. You wouldnt need a new type of repository, you could just use svn becuse you just need to store source code. assemblies are just python projects that import a bunch of python libraries from others ( which happen to produce objects ). The biggest challenges, too will be those programming projects face-- namely, dependency management. I suspect we would end up needing to have a way for each 'module' to describe not only what objects it exports, but also a way to enumerate its dependencies both in terms of runtime ( eg python libraries and such ) as well as other objects it is dependent on ( eg, others it has aggregated ) the apache maven project impements a very similar model for java code by using a pom.xml file ( project object model) that allows a java project to declare this type of information. Then, maven assembles the project by automatically finding and resolving all of the dependencies ( including transitive ones ) from repositories storing the dependencies _____ From: pythonocc-users-boun...@gna.org [mailto:pythonocc-users-boun...@gna.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Paviot Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:00 AM To: jelleferi...@gmail.com; pythonOCC users mailing list. Subject: Re: [Pythonocc-users] writing OCC data to a db Hi Jelle, Interesting topic, this going to be a long thread! The use of a python ORM is also the choice I would have done. In my mind, there are two ways to model such a database: - a "data centric" db: you store the result of the different operations you ran (for instance a Point and a Cube); - a "method centric" db: you store the functions that you called and the parameters passed (for instance "create_point, 10,10,10" and "make_cube, 20,30,40"). For the data centric method, the db size will be more important than the second solution. For each object, I would only create a key and a "STRING" field in which I would store the output of the serialization of the python object (with the pickle module). The second method require less size but more computing time (since the different operations has to be computed each time you load the model). I have the feeling that this discussion is very close to the thread related to data model of the High Level API. That's something that could be an additional constraint of the HLA: "All pythonOCC HLA objects must be serializable to an XML file in order to be exchanged/shared through a network or stored to a database". Cheers, Thomas 2010/12/29 jelle feringa <jelleferi...@gmail.com> Hi, Recently I had enough of storing OCC's cad as files. Sometimes all you need is a database. Turns out that its really easy to do so. Perhaps its worth sharing how this can be done... Though this might be pretty trivial technically speaking, it can open up interesting ways of collaborating on projects. -jelle ================================================ from OCC.Utils.Topology import Topo __author__ = 'jdf' from sqlalchemy import * from sqlalchemy.ext.declarative import declarative_base from sqlalchemy.orm import sessionmaker, scoped_session from OCC.Utils.Construct import make_cube #from OCC.TopoDS import TopoDS_Shape # #TopoDS_Shape.__eq__ = lambda x: TopoDS_Shape.IsEqual(x) cube = make_cube(1,1,1) engine = create_engine('sqlite:///jelle.db') Base = declarative_base(bind=engine) Session = scoped_session(sessionmaker(engine)) def comp_brep(brepA, brepB): import ipdb; ipdb.set_trace() print 'jajajaj',brepB, brepA return brepA.IsEqual(brepB) class Individual(Base): '''used to store data about an individual a row forms a generation ''' __tablename__ = 'individual' id = Column(Integer, primary_key=True) #name = Column(String) #fullname = Column(String) #password = Column(String) generation = Column(Integer) ancestor_a = Column(PickleType()) ancestor_b = Column(PickleType()) brep = Column(PickleType(mutable=False)) #comparator=comp_brep)) #) ) fitness = Column(Float) Base.metadata.create_all() indy = Individual() indy.ancestor_a = 'parent_a' indy.fitness = 12. indy.ancestor_b = 'parent_a' indy.generation = 1 #indy.id = 0 indy.brep = cube ''' to INSERT many rows very quickly, use the "executemany" style of insertion: connection.execute(table.insert(), [{'foo':'row1'}, {'foo':'row2'}, {'foo':'row3'}, ...]) ''' s = Session() # s.begin() s.add(indy) s.commit() s.close() print('closed the previous db session\nlet\'s see if we can read back the objects, that be cool...') engine = create_engine('sqlite:///jelle.db', echo=True) Base = declarative_base(bind=engine) Session = scoped_session(sessionmaker(engine)) s = Session() from OCC.BRep import BRep_Tool bt = BRep_Tool().Pnt for indy in s.query(Individual): print indy.id for i in Topo(indy.brep).vertices(): print bt(i).Coord() ================================================ _______________________________________________ Pythonocc-users mailing list Pythonocc-users@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/pythonocc-users
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