On 2025/09/06 18:03, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
raven-pcihost is not hotpluggable but its instance can still be created
and finalized when processing the device-list-properties QMP command.
Exposing such a temporary instance to AddressSpace should be
avoided because it leaks the instance.

This may suggest there's an issue with freeing address spaces that should be fixed there at one place if possible rather than adding a new rule to remember not to create address spaces in init methods. Should adress space be a child of the device too so it's freed with it? This series simplifies some devices removing the rule to remember to unparent memory regions but this now adds another rule to remember avoid creating address spaces in init so overall we're in the same situation and still have to work around issues. This trades one workaround for another so still cannot fix all issues with freeing all created objects.

Making address spaces children will fix memory leaks, but it still leaves external side effects in init methods. Avoiding external side effect in init methods is necessary because devices can be created and removed at any time for introspection and it is not a new rule.

It is not necessary to remember to avoid creating address spaces in init; roughly speaking, int methods should only add properties and anything else should be done during realization.

"[PATCH v2 0/3] memory: Stop piggybacking on memory region owners" will cause an assertion failure if someone still manages to create an address space accidentally in init, so it is practically not possible to make such a mistake.

This series do not remove the rule to remember to unparent memory regions; it instead removes the rule to remember to delete memory regions from containers, which are distinct operations. And you still cannot add memory regions to containers during initialization; you should instead add them during realization just as like address space creation.


Expose instances to the AddressSpace at their realization time so that
it won't happen for the temporary instances.

I had a series here: https://patchew.org/QEMU/ cover.1751493467.git.bala...@eik.bme.hu/ that changes this for raven (among other clean ups) but I could not get that merged in the last devel cycle because of PPC being a bit unmaintained. I'd prefer that series to be taken first instead of this patch so I don't have to rebase that.

Looking at the series, "[PATCH v2 13/14] hw/pci-host/raven: Do not map regions in init method" moves memory_region_init() and memory_region_init_io() from raven_pcihost_initfn() to raven_pcihost_realize(). This should be avoided because these function calls add memory regions as child properties, which may be introspected without realization. Perhaps you may drop the patch and rebase your series on top of this patch, or let me rebase this patch on that series without it.

I wrote a documentation update to reflect my understanding of initialization and realization so please check it out too.
https://patchew.org/QEMU/20250908-qdev-v1-1-df236f7ce...@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp/

Regards,
Akihiko Odaki

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