Hi Salil,

On 10/23/25 4:50 AM, Salil Mehta wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 6:18 PM Salil Mehta <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 10:37 AM Gavin Shan <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Salil,

On 10/1/25 11:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:
From: Salil Mehta <[email protected]>

ARM CPU architecture does not allow CPUs to be plugged after system has
initialized. This is a constraint. Hence, the Kernel must know all the CPUs
being booted during its initialization. This applies to the Guest Kernel as
well and therefore, the number of KVM vCPU descriptors in the host must be
fixed at VM initialization time.

Also, the GIC must know all the CPUs it is connected to during its
initialization, and this cannot change afterward. This must also be ensured
during the initialization of the VGIC in KVM. This is necessary because:

1. The association between GICR and MPIDR must be fixed at VM initialization
     time. This is represented by the register
     `GICR_TYPER(mp_affinity, proc_num)`.
2. Memory regions associated with GICR, etc., cannot be changed (added,
     deleted, or modified) after the VM has been initialized. This is not an
     ARM architectural constraint but rather invites a difficult and messy
     change in VGIC data structures.

To enable a hot-add–like model while preserving these constraints, the virt
machine may enumerate more CPUs than are enabled at boot using
`-smp disabledcpus=N`. Such CPUs are present but start offline (i.e.,
administratively disabled at init). The topology remains fixed at VM
creation time; only the online/offline status may change later.

Administratively disabled vCPUs are not realized in QOM until first enabled,
avoiding creation of unnecessary vCPU threads at boot. On large systems, this
reduces startup time proportionally to the number of disabled vCPUs. Once a
QOM vCPU is realized and its thread created, subsequent enable/disable actions
do not unrealize it. This behaviour was adopted following review feedback and
differs from earlier RFC versions.

Co-developed-by: Keqian Zhu <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Keqian Zhu <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Salil Mehta <[email protected]>
---
   accel/kvm/kvm-all.c    |  2 +-
   hw/arm/virt.c          | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
   hw/core/qdev.c         | 17 ++++++++++
   include/hw/qdev-core.h | 19 +++++++++++
   include/system/kvm.h   |  8 +++++
   target/arm/cpu.c       |  2 ++
   target/arm/kvm.c       | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++-
   target/arm/kvm_arm.h   | 11 ++++++
   8 files changed, 168 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)


[...]

+void kvm_arm_create_host_vcpu(ARMCPU *cpu)
+{
+    CPUState *cs = CPU(cpu);
+    unsigned long vcpu_id = cs->cpu_index;
+    int ret;
+
+    ret = kvm_create_vcpu(cs);
+    if (ret < 0) {
+        error_report("Failed to create host vcpu %ld", vcpu_id);
+        abort();
+    }
+
+    /*
+     * Initialize the vCPU in the host. This will reset the sys regs
+     * for this vCPU and related registers like MPIDR_EL1 etc. also
+     * get programmed during this call to host. These are referenced
+     * later while setting device attributes of the GICR during GICv3
+     * reset.
+     */
+    ret = kvm_arch_init_vcpu(cs);
+    if (ret < 0) {
+        error_report("Failed to initialize host vcpu %ld", vcpu_id);
+        abort();
+    }
+
+    /*
+     * park the created vCPU. shall be used during kvm_get_vcpu() when
+     * threads are created during realization of ARM vCPUs.
+     */
+    kvm_park_vcpu(cs);
+}
+

I don't think we're able to simply call kvm_arch_init_vcpu() in the lazily 
realized
path. Otherwise, it can trigger a crash dump on my Nvidia's grace-hopper 
machine where
SVE is supported by default.

Thanks for reporting this. That is not true. As long as we initialize
KVM correctly and
finalize the features like SVE we should be fine. In fact, this is
precisely what we are
doing right now.

To understand the crash, I need a bit more info.

1#  is happening because KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT is failing. If yes, the can you check
       within the KVM if it is happening because
      a.  features specified by QEMU are not matching the defaults within the 
KVM
            (HInt: check kvm_vcpu_init_check_features())?
      b. or complaining about init feate change kvm_vcpu_init_changed()?
2#  or it is happening during the setting of vector length or
finalizing features?

int kvm_arch_init_vcpu(CPUState *cs)
{
    [...]
          /* Do KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT ioctl */
         ret = kvm_arm_vcpu_init(cpu);   ---->[1]
         if (ret) {
            return ret;
        }
           if (cpu_isar_feature(aa64_sve, cpu)) {
         ret = kvm_arm_sve_set_vls(cpu); ---->[2]
         if (ret) {
             return ret;
         }
         ret = kvm_arm_vcpu_finalize(cpu, KVM_ARM_VCPU_SVE);--->[3]
         if (ret) {
             return ret;
         }
     }
[...]
}

I think it's happening because vector length is going uninitialized.
This initialization
happens in context to  arm_cpu_finalize_features() which I forgot to call before
calling KVM finalize.


kvm_arch_init_vcpu() is supposed to be called in the realization path in current
implementation (without this series) because the parameters (features) to 
KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT
is populated at vCPU realization time.

Not necessarily. It is just meant to initialize the KVM. If we take care of the
KVM requirements in the similar way the realize path does we should be
fine. Can you try to add the patch below in your code and test if it works?

  diff --git a/target/arm/kvm.c b/target/arm/kvm.c
index c4b68a0b17..1091593478 100644
--- a/target/arm/kvm.c
+++ b/target/arm/kvm.c
@@ -1068,6 +1068,9 @@ void kvm_arm_create_host_vcpu(ARMCPU *cpu)
          abort();
      }

+     /* finalize the features like SVE, SME etc */
+     arm_cpu_finalize_features(cpu, &error_abort);
+
      /*
       * Initialize the vCPU in the host. This will reset the sys regs
       * for this vCPU and related registers like MPIDR_EL1 etc. also





$ home/gavin/sandbox/qemu.main/build/qemu-system-aarch64           \
    --enable-kvm -machine virt,gic-version=3 -cpu host               \
    -smp cpus=4,disabledcpus=2 -m 1024M                              \
    -kernel /home/gavin/sandbox/linux.guest/arch/arm64/boot/Image    \
    -initrd /home/gavin/sandbox/images/rootfs.cpio.xz -nographic
qemu-system-aarch64: Failed to initialize host vcpu 4
Aborted (core dumped)

Backtrace
=========
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0000ffff9106bc80 in __pthread_kill_implementation () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x0000ffff9101aa40 [PAC] in raise () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#2  0x0000ffff91005988 [PAC] in abort () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#3  0x0000aaaab1cc26b8 [PAC] in kvm_arm_create_host_vcpu (cpu=0xaaaab9ab1bc0)
      at ../target/arm/kvm.c:1081
#4  0x0000aaaab1cd0c94 in virt_setup_lazy_vcpu_realization 
(cpuobj=0xaaaab9ab1bc0, vms=0xaaaab98870a0)
      at ../hw/arm/virt.c:2483
#5  0x0000aaaab1cd180c in machvirt_init (machine=0xaaaab98870a0) at 
../hw/arm/virt.c:2777
#6  0x0000aaaab160f220 in machine_run_board_init
      (machine=0xaaaab98870a0, mem_path=0x0, errp=0xfffffa86bdc8) at 
../hw/core/machine.c:1722
#7  0x0000aaaab1a25ef4 in qemu_init_board () at ../system/vl.c:2723
#8  0x0000aaaab1a2635c in qmp_x_exit_preconfig (errp=0xaaaab38a50f0 
<error_fatal>)
      at ../system/vl.c:2821
#9  0x0000aaaab1a28b08 in qemu_init (argc=15, argv=0xfffffa86c1f8) at 
../system/vl.c:3882
#10 0x0000aaaab221d9e4 in main (argc=15, argv=0xfffffa86c1f8) at 
../system/main.c:71


Thank you for this. Please let me know if the above fix works and also
the return values in
case you encounter errors.

I've pushed the fix to below branch for your convenience:

Branch: https://github.com/salil-mehta/qemu/commits/virt-cpuhp-armv8/rfc-v6.2
Fix: 
https://github.com/salil-mehta/qemu/commit/1f1fbc0998ffb1fe26140df3c336bf2be2aa8669


I guess rfc-v6.2 branch isn't ready for test because it runs into another crash
dump with rfc-v6.2 branch, like below.

host$ /home/gavin/sandbox/qemu.main/build/qemu-system-aarch64                   
  \
      -accel kvm -machine virt,gic-version=host,nvdimm=on                       
  \
      -cpu host,sve=on                                                          
  \
      -smp 
maxcpus=4,cpus=2,disabledcpus=2,sockets=2,clusters=2,cores=1,threads=1 \
      -m 4096M,slots=16,maxmem=128G                                             
  \
      -object memory-backend-ram,id=mem0,size=2048M                             
  \
      -object memory-backend-ram,id=mem1,size=2048M                             
  \
      -numa node,nodeid=0,memdev=mem0,cpus=0-1                                  
  \
      -numa node,nodeid=1,memdev=mem1,cpus=2-3                                  
  \
      -L /home/gavin/sandbox/qemu.main/build/pc-bios                            
  \
      -monitor none -serial mon:stdio -nographic -gdb tcp::6666                 
  \
      -qmp tcp:localhost:5555,server,wait=off                                   
  \
      -bios /home/gavin/sandbox/qemu.main/build/pc-bios/edk2-aarch64-code.fd    
  \
      -kernel /home/gavin/sandbox/linux.guest/arch/arm64/boot/Image             
  \
      -initrd /home/gavin/sandbox/images/rootfs.cpio.xz                         
  \
      -append memhp_default_state=online_movable
        :
        :
guest$ cd /sys/devices/system/cpu/
guest$ cat present enabled online
0-3
0-1
0-1
(qemu) device_set 
host-arm-cpu,socket-id=1,cluster-id=0,core-id=0,thread-id=0,admin-state=enable
qemu-system-aarch64: kvm_init_vcpu: kvm_arch_init_vcpu failed (2): Operation 
not permitted

I picked the fix (the last patch in rfc-v6.2 branch) to rfc-v6 branch, same 
crash dump
can be seen.

root@nvidia-grace-hopper-01:/home/gavin/sandbox/qemu.main# git log --oneline 
HEAD | head -n 1
82dbd9a8f6 tcg: Defer TB flush for 'lazy realized' vCPUs on first region alloc
root@nvidia-grace-hopper-01:/home/gavin/sandbox/qemu.main# git diff
diff --git a/hw/arm/virt.c b/hw/arm/virt.c
index 254303727b..c4f89e7db6 100644
--- a/hw/arm/virt.c
+++ b/hw/arm/virt.c
@@ -2470,6 +2470,9 @@ virt_setup_lazy_vcpu_realization(Object *cpuobj, 
VirtMachineState *vms)
     /* set operational state of disabled CPUs as OFF */
     ARM_CPU(cpuobj)->power_state = PSCI_OFF;
+ /* finalize the features like SVE, SME etc */
+    arm_cpu_finalize_features(ARM_CPU(cpuobj), &error_fatal);
+

Thanks,
Gavin


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