On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 06:07:58AM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 12/5/19 8:35 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 12/05/19 17:50, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 16:27, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <phi...@redhat.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 12/5/19 5:13 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > > > > Hi Phil,
> > > > > 
> > > > > (+Ard)
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 12/04/19 23:12, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > > > > > Centos 7.7 only provides cross GCC 4.8.5, but the script forces
> > > > > > us to use GCC5. Since the same machinery is valid to check the
> > > > > > GCC version, remove the $emulation_target check.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >     $ cat /etc/redhat-release
> > > > > >     CentOS Linux release 7.7.1908 (Core)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >     $ aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc -v 2>&1 | tail -1
> > > > > >     gcc version 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) (GCC)
> > > > > 
> > > > > this patch is not correct, in my opinion. ARM / AARCH64 support in 
> > > > > edk2
> > > > > requires GCC5 as a minimum. It was never tested with an earlier
> > > > > toolchain, to my understanding. Not on my part, anyway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > To be more precise: when I tested cross-gcc toolchains earlier than
> > > > > that, the ArmVirtQemu builds always failed. Minimally, those 
> > > > > toolchains
> > > > > didn't recognize some of the AARCH64 system registers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If CentOS 7.7 does not provide a suitable (>=GCC5) toolchain, then we
> > > > > can't build ArmVirtQemu binaries on CentOS 7.7, in my opinion.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Personally, on my RHEL7 laptop, over time I've used the following
> > > > > toolchains, to satisfy the GCC5 requirement of ArmVirtQemu (which
> > > > > requirement I took as experimental evidence):
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Initially (last quarter of 2014), I used binary distributions --
> > > > >     tarballs -- of cross-binutils and cross-gcc, from Linaro.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Later (last quarter of 2016), I rebuilt some SRPMs that were at the
> > > > >     time Fedora-only for RHEL7. Namely:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     - cross-binutils-2.27-3.fc24
> > > > >       https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=801348
> > > > > 
> > > > >     - gcc-6.1.1-2.fc24
> > > > >       https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=761767
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Most recently, I've been using cross-binutils updated from EPEL7:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     - cross-binutils-2.27-9.el7.1
> > > > >       https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=918474
> > > > > 
> > > > > To my knowledge, there is still no suitable cross-compiler available 
> > > > > on
> > > > > RHEL7, from any trustworthy RPM repository. So, to this day, I use
> > > > > gcc-6.1.1-2 for cross-building ArmVirtQemu, on my RHEL7 laptop.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again: I believe it does not matter if the gcc-4.8.5-based
> > > > > cross-compiler in CentOS 7 "happens" to work. That's a compiler that I
> > > > > have never tested with, or vetted for, upstream ArmVirtQemu.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now, I realize that in edk2, we have stuff like
> > > > > 
> > > > >     GCC48_AARCH64_CC_FLAGS
> > > > > 
> > > > > in "BaseTools/Conf/tools_def.template" -- coming from commit
> > > > > 7a9dbf2c94d1 ("BaseTools/Conf/tools_def.template: drop ARM/AARCH 
> > > > > support
> > > > > from GCC46/GCC47", 2019-01-08). That doesn't change the fact that I've
> > > > > never built or tested ArmVirtQemu with such a compiler. And so this
> > > > > patch makes me quite uncomfortable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If that rules out CentOS 7 as a QEMU project build / CI platform for 
> > > > > the
> > > > > bundled ArmVirtQemu binaries, then we need a more recent platform
> > > > > (perhaps CentOS 8, not sure).
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately CentOS 8 is not available as a Docker image, which is a
> > > > convenient way to build EDK2 in a CI.
> > > > 
> > > > > I think it's also educational to check the origin of the code that 
> > > > > your
> > > > > patch proposes to remove. Most recently it was moved around from a
> > > > > different place, in QEMU commit 65a109ab4b1a ('roms: lift
> > > > > "edk2-funcs.sh" from "tests/uefi-test-tools/build.sh"', 2019-04-17).
> > > > > 
> > > > > In that commit, for some reason I didn't keep the original code 
> > > > > comments
> > > > > (perhaps it would have been too difficult or messy to preserve the
> > > > > comments sanely with the restructured / factored-out code). But, they
> > > > > went like this (originally from commit 77db55fc8155,
> > > > > "tests/uefi-test-tools: add build scripts", 2019-02-21):
> > > > > 
> > > > > # Expose cross_prefix (which is possibly empty) to the edk2 tools. 
> > > > > While at it,
> > > > > # determine the suitable edk2 toolchain as well.
> > > > > # - For ARM and AARCH64, edk2 only offers the GCC5 toolchain tag, 
> > > > > which covers
> > > > > #   the gcc-5+ releases.
> > > > > # - For IA32 and X64, edk2 offers the GCC44 through GCC49 toolchain 
> > > > > tags, in
> > > > > #   addition to GCC5. Unfortunately, the mapping between the 
> > > > > toolchain tags and
> > > > > #   the actual gcc releases isn't entirely trivial. Run "git-blame" on
> > > > > #   "OvmfPkg/build.sh" in edk2 for more information.
> > > > > # And, because the above is too simple, we have to assign 
> > > > > cross_prefix to an
> > > > > # edk2 build variable that is specific to both the toolchain tag and 
> > > > > the target
> > > > > # architecture.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So... unless Ard feels it is really totally safe to retro-actively 
> > > > > rely
> > > > > on the gcc-4.8.5-based compiler in CentOS 7, I'd rather we picked a 
> > > > > more
> > > > > recent build platform (OS) instead. For example, we build ArmVirtQemu 
> > > > > on
> > > > > RHEL8 regularly, so that's a reality-based "plus" for CentOS 8.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Independently of all of the above, the OVMF toolchain selection logic
> > > > > that this patch proposes to reuse with ArmVirtQemu, is *really*
> > > > > x86-specific. Please run "git blame" on "OvmfPkg/build.sh" in upstream
> > > > > edk2, to see where the various branches come from (as the comments in
> > > > > this shell script suggest as well). There had been mess like commit
> > > > > 656ac0c7d8ea ('Revert "OvmfPkg/build.sh: select the GCC49 toolchain
> > > > > settings for gcc-7.*"', 2017-08-25).
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for all the pointers, very educative indeed :)
> > > > 
> > > > I'll see other setups I can use with GCC5+ available.
> > > > 
> > > > I still have to figure if there are free tier CI with less limitations
> > > > than Travis/Shippable/GitLab, so we can keep the full EDK2 build output 
> > > > log.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > My CI job for ArmVirtQemu/EDK2 build tested GCC48 and GCC49 until very
> > > recently, and I never experienced any issues when running those
> > > images, although it's been much longer that I actually tried that. So
> > > I wouldn't recommend against it, and if we do identify any issues, we
> > > should either deprecate GCC48 (for ArmVirtQemu or for AArch64
> > > altogether) or fix them.
> 
> FYI Debian/Ubuntu apparently force to GCC49:
> https://salsa.debian.org/qemu-team/edk2/blob/debian/debian/rules#L9

fyi, that was to avoid shipping pre-compiled binaries:
https://salsa.debian.org/qemu-team/edk2/commit/d46a08968a1609725215f32230ab1ddd35d8b7fb

But I just uploaded a new version w/ this change that gets around it:
https://salsa.debian.org/qemu-team/edk2/commit/bfe4fc20408f35ffaa196817b57df11981eef620

  -dann

> > 
> > OK, thank you, I'm fully satisfied with this addition. :)
> > 
> > Phil, in this case I think we can indeed replace the hard-coded "GCC5"
> > with a bit of dynamic detection. Two remarks:
> > 
> > - Please CC Ard on v2, so he can ACK. I'd like that. :)
> > 
> > - Again, we shouldn't blindly reapply the x86 (OVMF) quirk(s). I mean
> > mainly the special casing of "6.[0-2].*" to GCC49, which comes from
> > upstream edk2 commit 432f1d83f77a ("OvmfPkg/build.sh: Use GCC49
> > toolchains with GCC 6.[0-2]", 2016-12-06).
> > 
> > ... or is that GCC bug target-independent in fact? I can't really tell;
> > the upstream GCC bug
> > <https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70955> is ISA-specific
> > (x86-64), and so are function calling conventions.
> > 
> > I'd suggest *not* applying the quirk for ArmVirtQemu, initially.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Laszlo
> > 
> 

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