Arg I meant to say feature parity between QGIS with qt4 and QGIS with qt5. Darn smartphones. On 14 Oct 2015 20:20, "Mathieu Pellerin" <nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really like the idea of making one of the focus of the next dev cycle to > be qt5. Even if 2.14 is still compiled against 2.14 by default, it'd be > great to attempt to reach user experience parity between 2.14 & 2.15 on the > major platforms QGIS is shipped on. > > Having faced the need to compiled and used QGIS using qt5 libs less than > two weeks ago to fix an issue in qt4, it's nice to see that things mostly > work, but it did show some fine tuning is needed (cmake logic refinements > to handle qt5 libraries, finding a way to deal with qtwpolar, and in-app > issues like broken keyboard shortcuts etc.). > > Maybe a hackfest where every dev work on their area of code against qt5 > would be cool to finance? :) > > M > On 14 Oct 2015 20:08, "Larry Shaffer" <lar...@dakotacarto.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Nathan Woodrow <madman...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't think having Qt5 on OSX is so much the issue but the change the >>> PyQt5/Python3 as that has the larger impact because it changes all the >>> plugins. >>> >> >> Makes sense, especially since PyQt4 can be built against Qt4 or Qt5. Then >> maybe it is reasonable to have the 2.13 dev cycle focus mainly on moving to >> Qt5, so that it results in a 2.14 LTR that works with Qt5? Then, break API >> and introduce Py3 with 3.0 (assuming 2.14 is last 2.x release)? >> >> Would having a 2.14 LTR that works with Qt5 poorly affect other platforms? >> >> Regards, >> >> Larry Shaffer >> Dakota Cartography >> Black Hills, South Dakota >> >> >>> - Nathan >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Larry Shaffer <lar...@dakotacarto.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Paolo Cavallini <cavall...@faunalia.it >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Il 14/10/2015 13:58, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>> > With regards to Mac and Qt4 support, it may be that even an LTR 2.14 >>>>> > release will have a very short lifespan, given that the next Mac OS >>>>> > upgrade will probably significantly break Qt4; and, I seriously doubt >>>>> > there will be people wanting to resurrect Qt4 again. >>>>> >>>>> so, wouldn't this be a strong argument against 2.14 as an LTR? >>>>> I understand the same will hold true for Debian/Ubuntu as well. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Touché, Paolo. You are probably right here, though there are still a >>>> couple of unknowns at this point. >>>> >>>> By "very short lifespan" I am referring to the next Mac OS (10.12?), >>>> which not everyone will use. It is unknown at this time whether Qt4 can be >>>> made to support it (maybe we get lucky again and it doesn't break Qt4 much >>>> more). On the other hand, I still get requests to support 10.6 (from 2009) >>>> for nightlies. >>>> >>>> If we look at some basic Mac OS adoption trends by users [0], it is >>>> apparent that they adopt the latest OS much more so than users of Windows. >>>> However, it is unclear how much this reflects the general Mac QGIS user's >>>> OS adoption rate (guessing it is roughly equivalent). >>>> >>>> Basically, as Nyall has pointed out, something needs done for Mac ASAP, >>>> not 4 or 8 or 12 months from now. Towards a solution, I would like to start >>>> providing a Qt5-based nightly for Mac (after 2.12 is released). >>>> >>>> [0] >>>> https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0&qpsp=2015&qpnp=1&qptimeframe=Y >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Larry Shaffer >>>> Dakota Cartography >>>> Black Hills, South Dakota >>>> >>>> >>>>> all the best. >>>>> -- >>>>> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu >>>>> QGIS & PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Qgis-developer mailing list >>>>> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Qgis-developer mailing list >>>> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qgis-developer mailing list >> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> >
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