Hi
I created 2 bugs and linked the pull request to one of them:
Bug report #16339: Embedded layer style and labels properties can be
modified within the layer styling panel
Bug report #16340: Layers within an embedded group are not displayed on
the map
Also as Harrissou pointed out, the set CRS of layer(s) and Set scale
visibility of layer(s) from the Layer menu do work with embedded layers
although they can be found in the blocked Layer Property window
(General/CRS and General/scale dependent visibility). Whether it is a
normal behaviour or not, I don't know but could be handy. But playing
with labels can also handy but not part of the features of an embedded
layer if they are supposed to be 'read only'.
What might be more worrisome is that these embedded layers can be edited
in the 'child' project and modified .... another bug?
Cheers
Laurence
On 11/03/2017 6:31 a.m., Régis Haubourg wrote:
Hi guys,
Paul Blottiere submitted a pull request to solve that issue here
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4247
If it is doing the work and merged, that would deserve backporting to
2.18 branch.
And yes that issue deserves to be more advertised and also extended to
a unlinked "copy" mode.
Wiring it in browser would be a nice way to make it more known too.
Side note: There is already a plugin called layers menu from project
to build menu shortcuts to other's project layers. I can't live
without it now, pushing that into core would be nice, if someone's
willing to fund that, qgis devs would probably be happy to tackle that
Le 10 mars 2017 3:19 PM, "Neumann, Andreas" <a.neum...@carto.net
<mailto:a.neum...@carto.net>> a écrit :
Hi Harrissou,
Thanks for tackling this in the documentation.
Some remarks:
- embedded layers are shown with "italic" labels in the layer tree
to distinguish them from regular layers.
- all layer properties are "read only", not only styling and
labeling, but also any other properties, like field aliases,
display values, actions, etc. That's why the layer properties
can't be shown to avoid that the user changes stuff which can't be
saved in the project.
- if the master project uses an alternative rendering order
(defined in the layer order panel of the master project), the
layer ordering in the project where the layers are embedded can
only be retained "en bloc" and only if you embed the parent group
and not individual layers
It may even be that you'll have to also activate the alternative
rendering order in the client project if you want to retain, but I
am not 100% sure. I just remember that it gave me headaches with
the layer rendering order in the past, because it was a bit buggy.
Should work well meanwhile though.
Andreas
On 2017-03-10 12:05, DelazJ wrote:
Hi,
Actually it's not a new feature. Has been there since....
(available in 1.8 documentation
http://docs.qgis.org/1.8/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/general_tools.html#nesting-projects
<http://docs.qgis.org/1.8/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/general_tools.html#nesting-projects>)
And as you can see, the documentation has neither been improved
since.
Given your discussion I tried to put some highlights on the
feature and any review is welcome
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1748
<https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1748> I'm more
a default style user than an embedded layer one so if I miss some
advantages in this feature please, let me know.
Laurence, I didn't check if you had reported the issues yet,
otherwise I think removal of some items can be added:
- Layer menu --> Labeling
- when right-clicking an embedded layer --> Style.
Given that the Layer Properties dialog is not availbale, there
are some actions like "Set Scale visibility of layer", "Set layer
CRS", "Filter" (that belong to the Properties --> General menu)
that make me fail to understand the real scope of an embedded
layer. Are they supposed to be grayed too or not? What kind of
changes are really allowed on such a layer or what is really kept
from the "source" file?
Thanks,
Harrissou
2017-03-09 21:07 GMT+01:00 Laurence Béchet
<bechet.laure...@gmail.com <mailto:bechet.laure...@gmail.com>>:
Thanks Andrea. I'll create them.
These are not big issues and easy to work around as a user.
I agree with you this new embedded layers feature is awesome
and for little mapping projects like Ark in the Park they are
very useful as I have my layout already ready and just need
to add what i want to plots: bird territories or past control
results or ..... Also if something in the layout changes (new
track, pest control grid altered) I only need to modify the
'master' map and it is propagated to all the other maps.
Worth a try!
Kind regards
Laurence
ARK IN THE PARK Volunteer Co-Ordinator
Cascades Ranger Station
Falls Road, Waitakere
Phone: (09) 810 7014
www.arkinthepark.org.nz <http://www.arkinthepark.org.nz>
www.forestandbird.org.nz <http://www.forestandbird.org.nz>
On 9/03/2017 10:58 p.m., Neumann, Andreas wrote:
Hi Laurence,
I can confirm both issues.
Embedded groups show empty (without the layers, only the
groups are displayed) in QGIS 3 and they are stylable in the
styling dock in 2.18 when they shouldn't be stylable.
However, if your restyle embedded layers in the styling
dock, they are, of course not saved back to the original
layers. This would be dangerous and probably unwanted in
most cases.
The styling dock is fairly new and probably the devs where
not aware about the embedded layers feature.
Can you please issue bug reports for both issues?
Embedded layers and groups are probably not used that much
in the wild, but I find them incredibly useful. It is one of
my favourite QGIS feature and saves you tons of work if you
can re-use background layers from other projects, while
still being able to identify these layers or snap to them.
Unfortunately, many users and devs are not aware of this
feature and it doesn't get much attention.
Thanks,
Andreas
On 2017-03-08 22:10, Laurence Béchet wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to use the embed layers and groups feature.
I'm running on Windows8 pro 64bits.
I have created a new project and I am loading a group of
layers which are my background (streams, lakes, etc ..)
in a main project.
QGIS 2.18.4 QGIS code revision 59c1d21:
I get the group loaded nicely. As expected, I cannot
access the properties if I double click on the layer.
However, if I have the layer styling panel open, I can
change the style ... I have not checked what happens to
the main project. Question 1: Is this normal?
QGIS version 2.99.0-Master QGIS code revision 5a543e4:
The group appears in the layers panel but none of the
layers are displayed. Question 2: Is this normal?
Kind regards
Laurence Bechet
ARK IN THE PARK Volunteer Co-Ordinator
Cascades Ranger Station
Falls Road, Waitakere
Phone: (09) 810 7014
www.arkinthepark.org.nz <http://www.arkinthepark.org.nz>
www.forestandbird.org.nz <http://www.forestandbird.org.nz>
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