And the image…

Fra: Qgis-user [] På vegne af Kristian 
Sendt: 4. april 2018 16:37
Emne: Re: [Qgis-user] True North

I made it within the Layout Composer/Editor (what it’s called in QGIS3 escapes 
me now – it used to be Map Composer in 2.x). That was the simplest way to 
achieve it quickly I found. You have the possibility to add more than one 
graticule and you can also change the CRS of the graticule. That is what I did. 
One was kept in UTM, the other used my custom Mercator CRS.

This is just one way of doing it. There many ways to achieve the same thing, 
but this should outline the general idea at least.

My last post was not let through to the mailing list, so here’s a copy of the 
image I attached in the previous mail. Should anyone be interested…


Fra: Springfield Harrison []
Sendt: 4. april 2018 16:19
Til: Kristian Evers <<>>
Cc: qgis-user <<>>
Emne: Re: SV: [Qgis-user] True North

Right, this looks promising.

I have been changing projections and then enabling the grid decoration which is 
always oriented straight up regardless of the projection.

I assume that you were inserting your grids as a vector feature using a drawing 

What was the CRS of the grid layer? I have been changing the project projection 
with OTF on. Maybe I should be adjusting the projection of the layer in 

Thanks again . . .

Cheers . . . . .   Spring
Samsung Tab 4
On Apr 4, 2018 5:23 AM, "Kristian Evers" <<>> 
I had a quick go at it after I wrote the email. What I did was to first create 
a custom projection with the proj-string “+proj=merc”. Then I opened the layout 
editor, inserted my map and added to sets of grid lines to the map. One of them 
was left with the original CRS (the UTM one) and for the other I used my custom 
CRS. This immediately gave me two grids, one where the meridians is oriented at 
the grid north (black in the attached image) and one oriented at true north 
(red in the attached image).


Fra: Springfield Harrison 
Sendt: 3. april 2018 22:52
Til:<>; Kristian 
Evers <<>>
Emne: Re: [Qgis-user] True North

OK, that sounds like the solution I'm looking for.

It sounds like the answer is to draw the lines in one projection and then 
transform it to the other, depending upon which orientation is desired for 
those lines.

I hope I have this correct…
Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison

On 03-Apr-2018 02:46, Kristian Evers wrote:
You can use the Mercator projection to digitize true north lines. It is 
conformal and thus preserves angles. The meridian convergence is 0 (that is, 
true north == grid north) all over the map. If you then transform those lines 
to your chosen CRS you should have a set of lines pointing towards true north 
instead of grid north.


Fra: Qgis-user [] På vegne af Alexandre 
Sendt: 3. april 2018 11:15
Til: Springfield Harrison <><>
Cc: qgis-user <><>
Emne: Re: [Qgis-user] True North

Maybe something like this :

A ter, 3/04/2018, 10:11, Alexandre Neto 
<<>> escreveu:
Ah sorry,

I got lost in translation. You are right, I was talking about the magnetic 
north, not the geodetic one.

Meanwhile,  remembering that all UTM are Transverse Mercator, I don't think 
there's a CRS that will solve you question.

I think you need to use some formula to convert the grid north measures to true 
north according to the CRS, and the latitude and longitude of the place.


A ter, 3/04/2018, 09:25, Springfield Harrison 
<<>> escreveu:


I believe that true north is actually a constant oriented towards the North 
Pole, i e 90 degrees north latitude. Also where all meridians converge in the 
northern hemisphere.

The other North orientations are magnetic north and grid North and these do 
vary as you suggested.

I do need to use a UTM projection but need bearings to be in degrees true north.

Thanks Alexandre...

Cheers . . . . .   Spring

Samsung Tab 4
On Apr 2, 2018 4:27 PM, "Alexandre Neto" 
<<>> wrote:
AFAIK, true bearing differs in time and location because of magnetic 
declination. So I don't think there is a such thing as a CRS with true bearings.

Assuming you are working at regional level, find the magnetic declination for 
that region and remove it from your observations. Then draw the azimuth using 
the chosen CRS. I think 26910 will work just fine.

If you are at a larger scale, then you may need to use different magnetic 
declination values for each observation.

This may help:

Best Regards,

Alexandre Neto
A seg, 2/04/2018, 23:54, Springfield Harrison 
<<>> escreveu:

I am using CRS 26910, NAD83 / UTM zone 10N, and need to draw lines at
exact true bearings.  The Advanced Digitizing Tool seems to do this but
which CRS would I use to ensure that the bearing is True?

Thanks very much . . .

Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison

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