Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list, yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this morning because it was worth a second thought.
I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on Andreas' side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring this topic to a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your posts very much. Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that. Greetings from Japan, Maria > Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann <andr...@qgis.org>: > > Dear Markus, > > This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that the > aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against excluding > Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start excluding > countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we draw the line? > The majority of today's world population unfortunately has to live in > problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and dictators. Also - > where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is > oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as an example? > > As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member > from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is > collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard > to judge - of course - for outsiders. > > The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from > Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population > would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war > and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it > ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and contributors > based on these events. > > We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this > aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in > the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be > deescalated. > > Greetings, > Andreas > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de <landcons...@freenet.de> > wrote: > Dear List, > > like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion in > Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially on > Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global, > peaceful open source community. > > - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom? > - What can the QGIS community do? > - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for > Russian military purposes against the Ukraine? > > The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is the > representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian > population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them know, > that military force against an independent, free and democratic European > country goes against all the values we stand for in the open source > community. > > The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian products > and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian companies and > partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man to change this > unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to free Europe. > > With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about > excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as > Russian troops are in the Ukraine. > > I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must > defend! > > How do you think about it? > > Very concerned greeting. > > Markus Weidenbach > landConsult.de > Bühl/Germany > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > -- > > -- > Andreas Neumann > QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer) > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user _______________________________________________ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
