In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich Mellor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

The problem is not helped by the fact that Peter Graf has turned his back on current versions of smsq/e.
As the hardware designer, he is best placed to comment and spot where the problems lie.
One of the problems I had with him was that, when I reported problems he told me they weren't problems and did nothing about them.

Alas, there is no prospect of getting him to work under the smsq/e licence, therefore the smsq/e developers have to struggle on alone.


Well that should be no problem since Wolfgang has and uses a Q60
That said - if people do not report problems so that they can be collated together, how is anyone supposed to fix the problems??
100% agree with that.

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The Aurora SMSQ/e (current version 3.03 with colour drivers) actually has no problems and the colour drivers are to say the least excellent! And to me at least they are quite fast :-) And for you infidels out there proof of that is only 1 purchase away ;-) (buy QWord for the Aurora and you will see that it is quite fast). BTW: Auroras with Minerva MKII installed as per Simon's (Goodwin) confirmation CAN play Digital Audio at 10KHz mono (which is quite good actually)... so all Aurora users out there better start buying stuff from TF Services (Tony may I remind you that you will need to add a couple of zeroes to that cheque ;-) hehehe)
OF course once you have the colour drivers installed to play QWord you cannot use the Minerva can you?

Yes, but Roy, you can play QWord under Minerva - you do not need smsq/e at all :-)


That is why we are so proud of it.
I can see your pride but Phoebus was just extolling the virtues of SMSQ/E colour Aurora drivers.

In any case, surely the Minerva MKII extensions would still work from within smsq/e - or do they actually use some of the Minerva operating system?
I don't think they work although some bits were adapted to run under SMSQ/E. The thing is that SMSQ/E replaces whatever is underneath and Minerva is just and operating system on a ROM so as far as SMSQ/E is concerned it is not there.

BTW the Aurora Colour driver is just a module grafted onto exactly the same core of SMSQ/E as is used in all the other versions (so Marcel recently informed me when we were discussing how to detect the different versions for the SGC - Hi and Lo Colour.). So, if the O/S is at fault so it should fragment on all systems.

I agree... However, I think the problem is with some of the actual software in use on the Q40 - from what I recall, there were various patches released including ones for Qliberated programs ?? Sysmon may need updating to cope - Phoebus is at fault here - making a sweeping statement that smsq/e is not reliable on Q40/Q60 is liable to put people off using that operating system, when it actually appears related more to the software he is using. Phoebus, if you don't report details of the actual problems, then please don't make sweeping statements (we get much too many of those on the list).
Yes I was going to ask him what version of Sysmon he had - I forgot. I don't recall actual patches for QLiberated programs but the O/S certainly got patched. On my Q40 things would not run which ran perfectly well on a D&D systems one. We tested this at the Hove show they came to. I tried all the patches but ProWesS and some QLib programs just would not work correctly.

I have already had comments like QWord installer does not work on smsq/w v2.98 but QWord does (this is on the Q40) - without knowing exactly what the user sees on screen (ie. what happens), how am I supposed to know whether it is smsq/e or my installer (I have no Q40/Q60 let alone smsq/e v2.98)


I get this sort of thing all the time. One user tied me up for hours asking about creating a QXL.WIN file on his ZIP drive from QPC2 I talked him through it and it kept failing. Of course the one question I had forgotten to ask (didn't think I would need to) was if he had a disk in the drive. He didn't.


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