Dilwyn, speaking as one of the "uninformed/non-technical" types you got a 
great idea
here. It may even get me back to the copy of QPC2 Demo I d/lded a year or 
two ago.

Still lurking here but most (99%) of it goes overr my head.


Denny
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL disk transfer


>> There is quite a simple solution to the chicken and egg problem with
>> unzip.
>> Just send the enquirer a disk with it on. Most of us have a stock of
>> old DD
>> disks we no longer use. Just wrap one in bubble foam, put in a
>> cheap
>> envelope with a second class stamp. I've done it many times.
> Yes, usually that works, but in the case of Mr Barker in Antartica for
> example it was impractical (OK, an extreme example, but the situation
> does arise). I have been known to pop a QL emulators CD in the post to
> some people where the situation seemed to merit it, in the hope that
> helps the person concerned and of course pays benefit in terms of that
> person staying with the QL, buying stuff from traders, joining Quanta
> or whatever. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, but I try.
>
>> I have also successfully sold many copies of QPC2. When someone asks
>> for my
>> help in transferring files to a PC because they are abandoning the
>> QL, I
>> send them a copy of the QPC2 demo disk. Often the next stop for them
>> is Roy
>> or Jochen.
> Absolutely. I often recommend emulators or certain PD programs or to
> contact the traders to see if they have programs or services able to
> help them. I get about one or two emails from my website form on this
> subject every day and most result in the senders being directed
> towards the QL traders. I do offer to copy unzip to a disk if they
> send me the floppy with return postage of course.
>
> In my case, it's the volume of queries repeating the same
> information - my contacts arise from people who find QL software on my
> website - searches for "QL" seem to locate my website quite well on
> most search engines, even though I've never really used promotion and
> ranking services beyond the description and keywords meta tags in my
> pages. If there was minimal documentation on there somewhere it would
> help me and help others too. What we don't know is how many people try
> and give up of course. I'm just afraid of a scenario like the QL
> survey last year which discovered just how many 128K QL users
> minimally expanded systems are out there in fairly active use.
>
> Once the informationis on a page, I'll just make sure there's a link
> to it from my home page and it's there for all to read without even
> having to contact anyone, that way, I may only need to help people who
> run into problems rather than repeatedly pointing out the same things.
>
>> Sometimes the old fashioned solutions work best,
> :-)
> And sometimes it's easy to overlook the obvious too. As my boss
> sometimes says, "you need to reiterate very basic issues surprisingly
> often."
>
>> PS What about a nice little challenge for Quanta? Investigate the
>> possibility of a telephone line at all shows and then offer a
>> download
>> facility for those members who cannot access the internet!
> Good idea, and of course as Quanta have copies of most of my CDs which
> are essentially freeware collections, it might be equally easy to
> offer a "PD Copying Service" at shows too. I'm sure Quanta
> sub-librarians used to do this at shows in the past, maybe Quanta
> still does just I was asleep at the time ;-)
>
> Modern mobile phone links may make it practical to download moderate
> amounts of material where there isn't a landline (can't see demand
> being very large) - user just pays for online call time perhaps? Since
> QL software isn't at all large, downloading entire QL sites is often a
> matter of just a few megabytes, someone with broadband could quickly
> download most QL site content to a CD for copying at shows within
> obvious copyright limitations. I've more than once said yes to
> requests to give copies of my website on CD to people without internet
> access.
>
> With the will, there's always solutions and usually cheap, practical
> ones too.
>
> -- 
> Dilwyn Jones
>
>
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