Black Box & Gold Card and floppies is adequate but slow.

There is QL implementation for the Amiga called QDOS4Amiga. However it gives 
a narrow screen. You cannot LRESPR SMSQE because it just seems to 
hang. If you can solve this problem then the Amiga world could try the latest 
version of SMSQE. If you can change the screen so it has the same 
proportions as the QL even better. 

George Gwilt's Gwass will run on any Amiga with 68020+ processor and this can 
be downloaded from jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG.
George Gwilt also has developed a program that takes all the hastle out 
assembling SMSQE. You have to download the source from the official site and 
email George Gwilt  at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have not tried it but I suspect if you have Linux then there is an emulator 
for the Amiga (UAE?) which gives a wide screen so perhaps running on the 
QDOS4 Amiga emulation in in the Linux Amiga Emulation will give the correct 
display!
Or you could try UQLX particularly the version that Marcel has corrected. 
Install as root so that it reads QL disks in the floppy drive.

Other wise if you need a better platform Marcels commercial QPC2 is the best 
answer.

C68 will enable you to program in C.
No inline and other ehancements but still good.

Cptr is the solution for the pointer environment in C
Have a look at SLUG site at jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG for an example of Hello 
World program with Cptr.
Cptr is available on the same site.
I can send you another article of pointer programming with Cptr if you wish.
I can also send you an article on programming for QL windows. 

I hope there is enough information here to enable you to decide on the route 
that you wish to go forward.

On Monday 19 February 2007 23:22, Phil Kett wrote:
> This isn't a reply to any specific email that's been sent to the list on
> this subject more a general comment on my thoughts about the QL 'scene'
> as it currently stands.
>
> My interest in the QL has recently been rekindled. Some years ago I
> decided that I had the money to invest in a more modern QL system - I
> couldn't stretch to the likes of a Q40 but did manage to buy a SGC and
> Aurora. Although my knowledge of the system was extremely rusty I did
> manage to get it up and running - installed SMSQ and some other software
> with the intention of developing some software.
>
> Unfortuantely, I found it extremely difficult to get information on how
> to do so without spending a fair amount of money. The pointer
> environment was (and still is) a complete mystery as far as programming
> is concerned. I even subscribed to QL Today but found that the articles,
> though good, either referred to previous articles that I didn't have or
> assumed a level of knowledge that I didn't know how to gain.
>
> The Aurora machine has now been sold on and has a very good new home
> with Neil Riley.
>
> With the recent mention of the lack of available hardware, I considered
> the possibility of maybe porting SMSQ to the Amiga platform. QDOS
> Classic is already available for the amiga and works well - though for
> some reason it will only work on my 68000 machine and not on the faster
> 68030. My thought was that at least some of the work has already been
> done by creating the necessary drivers etc for the Amiga hardware -
> these seem to have been implemented as add on 'roms' for the QDOS
> environment. Whether something like this would be possible I don't know
> - I need to download the source for SMSQ and brush up my 680x0 assembly
> - it seems on the face of it to be feasible though.
>
> As for developing programs for the QDOS or SMSQ - where should I start?
> I still have a black box QL with a gold card, I've managed to resurrect
> a couple of working DD floppies. I am primarily a C programmer on Unix
> type systems, getting and installing a working C development environment
> on a floppy based system probably isn't practical. I don't have
> available money to invest in hardware or any commercial emulators - a
> lack of funds was one of the reasons that the Aurora system was sold in
> the first place.
>
> It's also true to be said that any new software development should
> really be done on a system that can handle the best the QL has to offer,
> that means a fast CPU and high colour drivers. My black box QL can
> hardly be said to fall into that category! :-)
>
> [Incidentally Neil, if you're reading this, no I don't for one moment
> regret selling the Aurora to you!]
>
> So, the upshot of all this (and sorry for rambling on) is that although
> I am willing to put some time into developing software for the QL, it
> seems that I either have to spend a not insubstantial amount of money on
> either hardware (which isn't necessarily available) or something like
> QPC. The alternative is to try and port SMSQ to a hardware platform that
> I already have access to (the Amiga). Although I would love to do this
> and indeed will have a look to see if I can manage it I suspect that
> it's a task that is way beyond my capabilities.
>
> I think we have to face the fact that the QL is a dying breed - we're
> not going to get any new hardware due to costs, and new software is only
> going to be developed by those already developing software. Partly
> because of the cost of getting a 'modern' QL system and partly because
> learning how to program such a system seems to be very, very difficult
> due to a lack of tutorials or available documentation.
>
> Once again sorry for the rambling email - I just thought I'd throw in my
> 2p to an interesting discussion!
>
> Phil
>
>
>
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